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#1 tonys2r

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Posted 02 September 2007 - 07:48 PM

NEED HELP ON LJ GTR OR XU1 NOT SURE... ID CHECK ON VIN NUMBER 8D11PCH288865J :ZZZ:

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Posted 02 September 2007 - 08:07 PM

A GTR,cheers.

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Posted 02 September 2007 - 08:20 PM

a 7/73 or 8/73 brisbane xu1 # i reckon

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Posted 02 September 2007 - 08:38 PM

color is called purr-pull. nice

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Posted 02 September 2007 - 09:06 PM

Hi

The "P" in the VIN suggests JP (XU-1) engine, but the disk says GTR built 20/8/73 - no engine number recorded.


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Posted 02 September 2007 - 09:13 PM

Hi

The "P" in the VIN suggests JP (XU-1) engine, but the disk says GTR built 20/8/73 - no engine number recorded.


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CAR HAS NO ENGINE, THATS WHY I'M NOT SURE.
HAS XU1 TANK. FUEL LINES LOOK RIGHT.

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Posted 02 September 2007 - 09:23 PM

Hi

Has is got a double set of holes for the upper control arm mounting?

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Posted 02 September 2007 - 11:13 PM

from the few ive seen on these vin discs it states the gearbox so with that i thought it would be obviuos if its a gtr or xu1 !

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Posted 03 September 2007 - 05:32 PM

i will be selling car asap as another xu1 that i have been after for a long time has been offered to me. will be on ebay shortly cheers :clap:

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Posted 03 September 2007 - 06:52 PM

strange vin tag appears to be xu1 but betsbac code on disc is not

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Posted 04 September 2007 - 08:30 PM

nzgtrxu1 how do you get the paint colour from the VIN? Do you have a secret list or have seen the car?

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Posted 04 September 2007 - 09:17 PM

nzgtrxu1 how do you get the paint colour from the VIN? Do you have a secret list or have seen the car?

body no 288865b
trim 1856-50x
paint 56815347
BLJ 50383B
BUILD DATE 8/73
TELL WHAT YOU COME UP WITH AS I'M GETTING MIXED VIEWS ON THIS CAR.
AFTER INSPECTION CAR IS XU1 HAS ALL RIGHT SIGNS ON BODY

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Posted 04 September 2007 - 11:26 PM

my opinion is that this is xu1 data. The metal tag being 8D11P means XU1, if it left the factory as a GTR then it would be 8D11L no doubt about it. The tag numbers all stackup as matching set of numbers. purr-pull is more likely to be xu1 than gtr. 50X is correct
the betsbac code is a human written data entry, approx 35yrs ago, possibly by a new staff member who wrote down only the 1st 3 digits of GTR XU1. who knows maybe a dozen other expl?. I believe the tag ova the written incomplete service booking. dont belittle it for it not having matching # engine, its allowed,quite normal & still a desirable car, would get 10 grand higher price if it did thats all. Make sure youre doing the thing selling it

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Posted 05 September 2007 - 12:34 AM

Hi

The problem as I see it is, that if a buyer sought a verification letter from GMH (and most do) the GMH response would be "GTR" as per the BETSBAC result. Remember, only the H288865 part of the VIN is used for the "look-up".

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Posted 05 September 2007 - 01:38 AM

According to the vin disk NO LJ XU-1,s rolled off the Brisbane production lines on August the 17, 18, 19, 20, 21 (only GTR,s) Id be having a real hard close look at the vin tag ! And also keep in mind that from 10/72 all Brisbane built XU-1,s had XU-1 stamped into the large model, body, paint etc tag.

Cheers, B.

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Posted 05 September 2007 - 07:18 AM

much as i hate to admit it ,it is becoming very obvious that there is many flaws/human errors in the vin disc,i would look at the car first, if all is right , nos match/all the right parts in the right places, not a 's' reshell, then its a xu1,be a pity to have a genuine xu1 knocked on the head by human error/poor record keeping from years ago. cheers daz :D

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Posted 05 September 2007 - 09:22 AM

Hi nzgtrxu1,I am just woundring how did you get the colour of the vin tag so early,when tonys2r didnt even list the paint number at the begining of this thread,cheers.

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Posted 05 September 2007 - 09:26 AM

Fly, I don't think you are right about the tags being stamped XU1 from 10/72. I bought a new [Brisbane] XU1 in November 1972 and it didn't have XU1 stamped on the big tag and to my knowledge the tags were not stamped until early 73.
I agree with LNC that Holden's record keeping was not the best and that the records for LC, LJ and LH are not perfect.
Remember that it was done by human computer and handwriting does vary, someone's 2 can look like a 5 etc. Besides who knew that these cars would become the icons they are today - if we all had a crystal ball for the future we would all be perfect and so would our records.
If you could put all of the Torana buffs in a room we would still only know 99% of the real history of the Torana.
Remember when you could walk into a Holden dealership and order this paint, this interior, these wheels, this motor, this gearbox, these accessories and if you were prepared to wait, you could usually get them if the dealer knew the right person in the right place in Holden.
Regards The Nut.

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Posted 05 September 2007 - 09:37 AM

nzgtrxu1 I have a GTR with no paint tag could you tell me the factory colour, if I supply you my numbers?

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Posted 05 September 2007 - 10:54 AM

strange vin tag appears to be xu1 but betsbac code on disc is not

I would be checking diff and gearbox as this would give
an idea if car is xu-1..human error??? tag stamped wrong??
(like john gongs GTR)
76203C..GTR
77403E...xu-1
if human error..well one number maybe but three??? or
GTR with XU-1 options..the reason i say this is on page 163
of the antoniou book there is a service letter
SUBJECT: engine modifcations and idle settings
MODELS: TORANA LJ 82900 WITH XU-1
Iam yet to see a tag that says 82900
any ideas or a printing error???

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Posted 05 September 2007 - 11:44 AM

According to the vin disk NO LJ XU-1,s rolled off the Brisbane production lines on August the 17, 18, 19, 20, 21 (only GTR,s) Id be having a real hard close look at the vin tag ! And also keep in mind that from 10/72 all Brisbane built XU-1,s had XU-1 stamped into the large model, body, paint etc tag.

Cheers, B.

the XU1 stamped in the tag is a late 11/72 thing

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Posted 05 September 2007 - 12:52 PM

nzgtrxu1, seen the car on ebay and the colour code was listed on there, has there is noway of telling what is wat with out any numbers, or mabe he has done wat alot of us do write the numbers down when it was forsale originaly.

lj got me focked.

cheers john

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Posted 05 September 2007 - 02:46 PM

Fly, I don't think you are right about the tags being stamped XU1 from 10/72. I bought a new [Brisbane] XU1 in November 1972 and it didn't have XU1 stamped on the big tag and to my knowledge the tags were not stamped until early 73.
Regards The Nut.

Gidday Nut
Just because you bought it in November does,nt mean it was a November built car ! Can you remember what build (month) 1972 car it was ? Fat Tony owns a 10/72 built car and maybe able to shed some light on things ! I was lead to believe that when the vin tags changed in 10/72 was when the Brisbane plant started stamping XU-1 into its larger Model, Body, Paint etc tag ! ( I could be wrong ).
If this car does turn out to be a genuine XU-1, then that makes one more 1973 Bathurst LJ GTR XU-1 to add to the list !!!!!!! Was,nt some wanker pumping out fake 1973 Bathurst LJ GTR XU-1,s in NSW not so long ago ????

B.

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Posted 05 September 2007 - 05:34 PM

when one says to take a good look at the tags, with the vin tag are you saticfied that someone has not turned the l into a p ???. tony you have being wheeling and dealing in these cars long enough to know if this car is or is not the real deal.

:tease: :rockon: just like me.

cheers john

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Posted 05 September 2007 - 05:46 PM

Fly, My car was not bought from a dealership's stock but ordered from the dealer. Its build date was 14.11.72 and was delivered 24.11.72.
hope this helps, the nut.




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