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Started by toryman76 , Feb 10 2008 10:23 PM

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#1 toryman76

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Posted 10 February 2008 - 10:23 PM

gday all,

im slowly coming up to spraying my torana. it will be a full respray with some areas (ie. rust repairs) going back to bare metal. i have done some searches on the forum and have noticed a trend for people recommending protec painting products. i tried googleing it and didnt find too much about it. where abouts can this brand be bought from?

what other brands are out there that can be recommended? what about the K&H stuff? what is that like?

any help would be greatly appreciated.

thanks

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Posted 10 February 2008 - 10:38 PM

Are you going 2K or Acrylic??

Protec is popular with home enthusiasts because of its price and availability, But it's foundation is in Industrial Coatings primarily before Automotive use. That said plenty of Shops and guys use it with great success.

Workshops painting and colour matching cars have different needs than the enthusiast at home.

I would recommend trying to buy the best brand paint you can afford. People will say a good painter can make anything look good. Good painters will also tell you that a premium paint brand will be better to apply and have better properties as well.

My personal choices would be;

2K = Glasurit (its the system im used to), Spies Hecker, PPG

Acrylic = Spartan

K&H make really nice body fillers, I really like the Toucan 2K filler. They have released a new filler called Mercury but I'm yet to try it out. I'm pretty sure that K&H don't have their own paint system (ie. Colours/Tinters) but sell the associated sundries.

It will come down to personal preference and what your willing to spend as the prices for paints vary greatly. Some can justify the expense, others can't

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Posted 11 February 2008 - 08:31 AM

yeah sorry forgot to mention i will be using acrylic not 2k. K&H dont make colours but they do have primers and primer puttys but its recommended to stick with one brand yeah? i can justify spending a bit more on some good paint. i have been to one paint supplier and they stocked (and stood by...) Motospray. it was reasonably priced as well. what is it like?
thanks for the reply Pete.

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Posted 11 February 2008 - 08:35 AM

No deal on the Motospray.... IMO its a cheap brand (You can get motospray at supercheap!)

I would spend a bit more and get a better brand like Spartan, or Protec. I get my Protec from Pakenham Paints, but that is a little bit far for you (He does sell his paint over eBay to i think and can post it to ya...)

Spend your money on a good Clear too. The clear will give you the really good gloss!

Edited by MRLXSS, 11 February 2008 - 08:35 AM.

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Posted 11 February 2008 - 10:15 AM

I personally do not think that Protec is in the same league as Spartan. If you are doing a quick weekend respay to sell a car then use Protec. If it is a full bare metal respay then to skimp on paint is insane.

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Posted 11 February 2008 - 12:28 PM

No deal on the Motospray.... IMO its a cheap brand (You can get motospray at supercheap!)

ok. had a feeling that may be the case. will steer clear of it then.

ls2lxhatch - no this isnt just a quick weekend spray job to sell the car, but at the same time it wont be a bare metal respray... so somewhere in between! i will try and do some homework on both Spartan and Protec. i take it both make a primer/spray putty?

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Posted 11 February 2008 - 04:03 PM

Considering that you have stripped the car to an almost bare shell I would seriously consider a bare metal respray. In my opinion you have invested too much time and money to take the risk of painting over old paint.

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Posted 11 February 2008 - 04:20 PM

Spies Hecker all they way the only paint i will use

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Posted 11 February 2008 - 08:53 PM

you want quality use glasurit best on the market

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Posted 12 February 2008 - 05:02 PM

I was keen to use PPG until the paintshop who painted my other car recommended I try Protec. They actually use PPG and I was very happy with not only their paintwork, but professionalism. I tried the Protec and was very happy with the reults. I have since heard good things from a lot of people.

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Posted 12 February 2008 - 08:02 PM

i always thought PPG was the ants pants. interesting... does anyone have any price figures for these different brands? just to give me a rough idea before i start making some calls.

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Edited by toryman76, 12 February 2008 - 08:02 PM.

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Posted 13 February 2008 - 08:28 AM

I used Protec 2 Pack 6 years ago to respray, and have had nothing at all bad to report about it.
The crash shop who fixed it when a silly woman ran in to me had no issue matching paint 4 years after the respray.
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Posted 13 February 2008 - 09:52 AM

I bought 5L or Acrylic Protec Colour for $225 about a month ago (Ford Electric Orange)

And 4L or Protec Acyrlic Super Clear for $80...

I'm not sure of the prices on other brands. But they are the ones i know...

I have only ever heard good things about, Spartan, Glasurit and PPG, So they much be great as well! Haven't personally tried them though..... Yet..

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Posted 13 February 2008 - 12:01 PM

I am currently using Spie Hecker on the EH works well. I have also used Spartan in the past and have had no problems. I would really love to try some HOK or Hot hues just for funs sake.

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Posted 13 February 2008 - 09:38 PM

^^ those prices seem quite reasonable, and im going with just a solid colour too and not metallic. there is a Protec retailer (Airport West) not far from me so im leaning more towards using that, as i havent really found too much info on Spartan and Glasurit.

NRV051 - whats HOK?

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Posted 13 February 2008 - 10:12 PM

HOK: House of Kolor

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Posted 13 February 2008 - 10:41 PM

thanks for that tim.

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Posted 15 February 2008 - 03:52 AM

Mate have you thouht about using Debeers, I had my car done in it and couldn't be happier with the finish. Very reasonably priced to.
Food for thought.

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Posted 15 February 2008 - 09:18 AM

no i havent. in fact ive never heard of it before. will look in to it. thanks

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Posted 15 February 2008 - 09:32 AM

I thought De Beers is what you drink while doin De paint? :blink:

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Posted 15 February 2008 - 09:44 AM

haha. yep i reckon. cant find anything on the net about it...

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Posted 15 February 2008 - 01:54 PM

It's sold through most Body Shop stores. There is no s on the end its just de beer.
Google it and you should find plenty.
Where abouts in Melbourne are you.

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Posted 16 February 2008 - 01:07 AM

north-westish suburbs. half-way to bendigo pretty much. closest main automotive area is airport west, glenroy area. thanks for the spelling. that helps ;)

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Posted 17 February 2008 - 09:37 AM

if you were to go all the way to bendigo perrows will look after you, they are a great place to deal with and pretty well priced too

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Posted 17 February 2008 - 02:02 PM

yeah i have heard de beer stuff is awsome.
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