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#1 LS1LX

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Posted 09 July 2008 - 08:52 PM

Is anyone making a decent aftermarket pump for the 253/308's these days?

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Posted 09 July 2008 - 08:56 PM

Do a search, this was covered between 1 and 2 months ago.

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Posted 09 July 2008 - 09:18 PM

Hey struggler, just did a search and come across the OzNos one you mentioned.

If thats my only option for mechanical then I guess its going to have to do. Looks trick :spoton:

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Posted 09 July 2008 - 09:23 PM

Big T had a post about it....

You can get L34 Pumps, that flow at about 7psi peak

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Posted 09 July 2008 - 11:04 PM

Big T had a post about it....

You can get L34 Pumps, that flow at about 7psi peak

Im upgrading from an L34 pump :)

Looks like its either L34 or the OzNoz pump

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Posted 10 July 2008 - 08:35 AM

Can you fit some form of regulator to the Holden Motor? Maybe a return line or something to keep continuous pressure?

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Posted 10 July 2008 - 02:33 PM

Can you fit some form of regulator to the Holden Motor? Maybe a return line or something to keep continuous pressure?

what are you on about? its not an electric pump, diaphram type mechanical pumps are self regulating

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Posted 10 July 2008 - 03:10 PM

Ok, I mean fuel pressure regulation... So it is a constant pressure and flow... Some form of pressure relief valve or something would help with this? I have just read up on it a bit lately. I don't want vapour lock to happen to me again, so i am trying to learn ways to stop it... Constant flowing petrol under good solid pressure is less prone to vapour lock, As is cools it self down while moving around... Petrol just sitting under pressure in your engine bay heating up is not what you want when you are at idle etc... So some form of return line to keep petrol flowing while its waiting to be burnt would be a bonus? Correct me if i am wrong, as this is how i have interrupted what i have read.

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Posted 10 July 2008 - 04:18 PM

Ok, I mean fuel pressure regulation... So it is a constant pressure and flow... Some form of pressure relief valve or something would help with this? I have just read up on it a bit lately. I don't want vapour lock to happen to me again, so i am trying to learn ways to stop it... Constant flowing petrol under good solid pressure is less prone to vapour lock, As is cools it self down while moving around... Petrol just sitting under pressure in your engine bay heating up is not what you want when you are at idle etc... So some form of return line to keep petrol flowing while its waiting to be burnt would be a bonus? Correct me if i am wrong, as this is how i have interrupted what i have read.

MRLXSS, are you referring to something like a fuel log. These logs incorporate a fuel regulator and also have a return line setup so the fuel can continue to circulate while still feeding the carb.

These style of fuel logs are usually used with electric or belt driven fuel pumps.

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Posted 10 July 2008 - 04:28 PM

kinda something like this

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HOLLEY & BG 4150 FUEL RAILS WITH PRESSURE RELIEF


These Billet Fuel Rails eliminate the use of a conventional fuel pressure regulator. The idea is to supply your carby with maximum fuel flow and then to return to your fuel tank what you don't need, rather than using a conventional regulator than can restrict fuel flow in your time of need.
The brass poppet valve attached at the rear of the fuel rail is preset to 6.5 psi, so when the fuel pressure is higher than this the valve opens and returns fuel back to tank. If the fuel pressure is below this setting, every drop of fuel from your fuel pump goes straight into the carby.
( The poppet valve can be adjusted to your desired pressure setting. )

Under bonnet temperatures can be in excess of 70 deg C and a further benefit to this system is that you always maintain the freshest & coolest fuel at the carby rather than hot fuel that has been sitting under your bonnet for a period of time. This system eliminates " vapor lock & surge" from extreme under bonnet temperatures.

Are they useable with a Mechanical Pump? They look similar to what you put up though GMH355

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Posted 10 July 2008 - 04:35 PM

you could use one but chances are with a mechanical pump like what your using Matt they would be way overkill and a waste of money

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Posted 10 July 2008 - 04:40 PM

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So MRLXSS from what u have described, if the fuel is under the preset limit would not you still have the same problem with this setup?

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Posted 10 July 2008 - 06:23 PM

Im not putting any of that braided shit or fuel logs on an original SLR 5000, It has to be plain and simple.

I know how to setup a good fuel system for my chevs in either electric or mechanical but 308 mechanical pump options are all Im after.

I could fit an electric pump and be done with it, but I dont want to put an electric pump or a return line, its only 6psi required, I dont need a return line.

Just want a simple mechanical pump that will support a mild 308 with a 242 solid stick and L34 heads, nothing crazy.

I think all 2 of my option have been listed. Thanks all. OzNoz here I come.

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Posted 12 July 2008 - 11:19 AM

from memory,308s a few years back(maybe early comms) had a small filter on the front of the carb,it was about the size of a fiddy cent coin and gold. Off this, was a small (3-4 mm) pipe which i think returned to the fuel tank.This was to allow a small amount of fuel/vapour back to the tank.I think this would do the job.You could also tee it into the "in" hose on the fuel pump.mervex

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Posted 04 August 2008 - 07:23 PM

Big T had a post about it....

You can get L34 Pumps, that flow at about 7psi peak


I tryed to order an L34 pump today (from holden)and was told they are the same as all holden v8s? they tried 3 diff parts books for me and keeped coming back to same parts number as all holden v8 pumps. where did ya get yours? do you have a parts number?

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Posted 04 August 2008 - 08:22 PM

Standard holden V8 fuel pumps have one inlet and one outlet valve internally, L34 or Hi volume fuel pumps have two inlet and two outlet valves internally.

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Posted 04 August 2008 - 08:32 PM

Holden are simply refering to the fact that all they sell is the sealed version of the L34 pump now. Originally yes there were 2 different pumps. MRLXSS, MERVEX covered what you are talking about, the filters had a small return line on some models to do what you were talking about. Somewhere I'd have a picture of one.

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Posted 05 August 2008 - 08:21 PM

MERVEX covered what you are talking about, the filters had a small return line on some models to do what you were talking about. Somewhere I'd have a picture of one.


HJ L31 Statesman was one i know of.
RYCO plastic replacement filter for this was the old valiant one (dont ask for part no) which has this third, smaller return line in built.

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Posted 06 August 2008 - 06:00 PM

Goss list a 7 psi pump, part no. G25308A found here:
http://www.noelsauto...s Catalogue.pdf

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Posted 07 August 2008 - 07:57 PM

Ryco filter Z102K.

I run the stock pump with the 7PSI upgrade.

Flooded once early in the engine start up phase. Nothing found to cause it.

I looked at the fuel return business and I bought the bits but it has not happened again.

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Posted 11 August 2008 - 04:39 PM

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Here is the filter I was trying to find, it has a small return line. This filter screws into the front of the carby




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