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Started by _why-psi_ , Aug 23 2008 10:50 PM

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#1 _why-psi_

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Posted 23 August 2008 - 10:50 PM

anyone running their cars on E85? im seriously considering it. according to St Machine mag its much higher octane, good for up to 13:1 comp, real good for forced induction. cools the intake charge. some people call it street legal methanol which is pretty right as its an alcohol fuel. use more of it though as petrol air fuel ratio is about 14:1 whereas E85 is 9:1. just need to have a fuel system up to it. which mine is

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#2 _rorym_

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Posted 23 August 2008 - 11:07 PM

I read somewhere that Vodaphone are doing it but you need to use 30% more fuel or something?..The quantity is higher for the same result...thats for sure.
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#3 TerrA LX

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Posted 24 August 2008 - 12:21 AM

^^ True that with an octane rating of 105-129 (approx). More fuel is needed as rory has stated and I have from a very reliable source that ethanol, which is the same alcohol as found in drinks, is very dry on the system so be aware on old fuel lines, carby's etc.

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#4 _moot_

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Posted 24 August 2008 - 08:04 AM

i'm building my new engine to run on it.over 13:1 comp

fuel bowser is around the corner from work at $1.10 a litre but yes your sposed to use 30% more of it.

some of the turbo guys have found that you can run the same boost on it as they do on c16.WOW

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#5 _BlownOutlaw_

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Posted 24 August 2008 - 10:22 AM

And just to clarify, Methanol is street legal. Ive asked the RTA previously. And its very environmentally friendly and smells nice.

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#6 _moot_

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Posted 24 August 2008 - 10:26 AM

And just to clarify, Methanol is street legal. Ive asked the RTA previously. And its very environmentally friendly and smells nice.

have you got any proof of that?

i rang the engineer,who said to ring the rta,who said to ring the epa,who said to ring the rta......

i just couldnt get a definate answer (with proof) from anyone.

i'd love to run my car on meth.i use the same stuff in my radio controlled cars,and can get 200l for $150 :clap:

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#7 gtrboyy

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Posted 24 August 2008 - 10:41 AM

If I can find a servo close enough to home I'll set my car up on E85,from what I've read it's not that much that needs changing,then I can run 12:1-12:5 comp instead of around 11:5.

moot:sean aka allports gave me a lecture lol that you can run methanol legally on the street,don't think you can get proof out of epa/rta(i'm sure he tried) but from what he said though it fits within their rules.

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#8 _moot_

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Posted 24 August 2008 - 10:52 AM

i dont think emmisions was the issue though.i think it was fire/safety.i'd love to find out

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#9 _why-psi_

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Posted 24 August 2008 - 10:53 AM

ive got a good feeling my LJ will be an Alcoholic then. will need all the cooling help it can get and Alky fuels will help

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#10 Struggler

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Posted 24 August 2008 - 09:34 PM

i'd love to run my car on meth.i use the same stuff in my radio controlled cars,and can get 200l for $150

Tell me were I can get a 205L of Methanol for $150 ???? We're paying $275 in this town.........

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#11 _willo_

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Posted 24 August 2008 - 10:42 PM

Tell me were I can get a 205L of Methanol for $150 ???? We're paying $275 in this town.........

mcr performance at fyshwick charge 200 bucks a drum struggler....they are in the phonebook....

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#12 _willo_

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Posted 24 August 2008 - 10:44 PM

i dont think emmisions was the issue though.i think it was fire/safety.i'd love to find out

that's what i thought...methanol burns with a clear (invisible) flame and i thought that was why it was illegal for street use......

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#13 rodomo

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Posted 24 August 2008 - 11:05 PM

Maybe this mob can give a straight answer?

http://www.aafrb.com.au/

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#14 _moot_

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Posted 25 August 2008 - 05:48 AM

Tell me were I can get a 205L of Methanol for $150 ???? We're paying $275 in this town.........

i'm sponsored by a fuel company (for rc car fuel) they use cooge and vp.

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#15 warrenm

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Posted 25 August 2008 - 08:02 AM

Maybe your not supposed to use it on the road because there is no "ROAD TAX" for the government!
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#16 _monaroman68_

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Posted 25 August 2008 - 08:49 AM

Hey Struggler we pay 170 a drum from Straightline performance in Hervey bay (But thaat is mates rates) normally 200
Dave and Struggler that head problem you helped me with . Solved and doing great.
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#17 _ChevLX_77_

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Posted 25 August 2008 - 08:22 PM

I can not see how Methonal could be road legal, burns invisable... if the vechile is running fat ie rich, it will burn the shit out of yours eyes

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#18 _BlownOutlaw_

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Posted 25 August 2008 - 08:49 PM

Well I spoke to an RTA inspector at the Wagga RTA inspection station who advised me it was Ok to use methanol on the road but illegal to use avgas. These are the guys who pull you over the pits if your unlucky enough, so im sticking with that until advised otherwise.

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#19 makka

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Posted 25 August 2008 - 09:00 PM

thats good news, looks like im off to the shed to knock 60 thou off my heads!

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#20 _Yella SLuR_

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Posted 25 August 2008 - 09:04 PM

It is more pragmatic than that. Ethanol is a solvent and attacks the soft alloys in your fuel system (for us the carby, inlet manifolds and fuel pump housings). I checked out the E85 Falcon when it was here. Link: http://www.renewable...com.au/e85.html.

It was done by Manildra ???, and basically and from memory all the soft alloy components that the fuel system came into contact with were replaced.

Edited by Yella SLuR, 25 August 2008 - 09:04 PM.

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#21 _Yella SLuR_

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Posted 25 August 2008 - 09:17 PM

Another article for those interested:

http://www.carcentra...-fuel-bill.html

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#22 _willo_

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Posted 25 August 2008 - 11:29 PM

Well I spoke to an RTA inspector at the Wagga RTA inspection station who advised me it was Ok to use methanol on the road but illegal to use avgas. These are the guys who pull you over the pits if your unlucky enough, so im sticking with that until advised otherwise.

yep avgas is not legal....it contains lead.....at the moment it is still legal for offroad use but this is due to change this dec

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#23 _moot_

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Posted 26 August 2008 - 06:54 AM

Well I spoke to an RTA inspector at the Wagga RTA inspection station who advised me it was Ok to use methanol on the road but illegal to use avgas. These are the guys who pull you over the pits if your unlucky enough, so im sticking with that until advised otherwise.

one inspectors words arent really proof,and if i'm gonna spend the money,you sort of want something to back it up