Bare metal respray

Hi everyone
I bet this has been discussed before, but I was thinking today what would be the best way to do a bare metal respray on my torrie? Mainly to get rid of rust (God I hate the stuff!! Makes me stick everytime I look at it!) and to get it looking at its best for many years. I won't be attempting to paint it myself, being so inexperienced, but I should be able to do some of the preparation. Whats your thoughts on things like:
How to strip the old paint?
Whats best for rust prevention?
Undercoats/etch primers?
Types of topcoats?
Should I take the car back to a bare shell?
Basically, I would prefer to do this once and do it properly, not find out that after 5 years its all rusty and crappy. But having said that, is there anything I can do to keep costs down (that may be asking too much, sorry). Could someone give me an estimate cost? BTW, the car is a 4dr LX. Sorry for the dumb questions.

For anyone who has seen the pics of my car and is wondering why I want to do a bare metal, the previous owner was an apprentice panel beater and really only resprayed it to make it look good. There is a fair amount of bog and rust coming through already, and he only painted it ~2 years ago.

Cheers for any thoughts guys.

No dumb questions just dumb answers

I did everyhing by the book bare metal respray by professionals within 2 months I had a rust bubble appear

looking forward to hearing what others have to say

Of corse you need to remove ALL rust thoroughly then repair properly ie: use sheet metal NOT BOG!!!!
I would then treat with Metal Ready and POR15, hit with a dust coat of high solid primer (so you're not trying to sand the POR15) smooth then paint.
NOTE: primers are not water proof so do not let them get wet.

The best solution for rust is is to stop sitting water.
Become aware of where Toranas are prone to rust, figure out why those areas rust then take measures to prevent it.
Also clean cars are less prone to rust. Dirt holds water and scratches paint, exposing bare metal.

Now if you want to reduce the amount of work required, mix the 2 suggestions i've made.
Insted of stripping the entire car, simpley work/treat the areas that are prone to rust .

Not having a great deal of experience with Toranas I don't know all the areas but generally these are trouble spots.
Inside rear guards
Inside doors. Usuall drain plugs are blocked, doors are full of rust and weather strips have perished.
Boot.
Floor pan.
Windscreen rubbers.

I hope this helps.

im surprised the first post wasnt someone jumpin down ur throat sayin "�se the search!" actually on that topic if you look in your control panel there is a thing called torviki and in there is a link on a walkthrough how to strip paint.

i used all kinds of stuff when i was stripping another one i had, stripper works but there are good ways and bad ways, there are grinder attachments that are specifically for paint and they are awesome i use them now. and sandpaper works too but u need to be careful of the metal and the paint tends to melt and collect.

rust prevention for places you cant see like inside the boot and under guards i like to use a plastic base rust converter/primer not good for under topcoats tho. also cant go past fishoil. applied with a paintbrush under seals and in the duct panel etc its sweet. heard alot about por15 dunno wat it is.

for the body you should strip the places it would be rusty but i dunno about the rest dents etc. youd have to look for them and see if its worth strippin it all.

undercoat is (contrary to popular belief) just as important as the topcoat when u fix rust or dents give it a quick spray, unless u do the whole car at once.

all up its a huge job, especially if you need to weld panels in cos it gets more an more complicated lol but this is the best place to get the answers! check out the members projects too...

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im surprised the first post wasnt someone jumpin down ur throat sayin "�se the search!" actually on that topic if you look in your control panel there is a thing called torviki and in there is a link on a walkthrough how to strip paint.

I shall try harder in the future

I shall try harder in the future

hahahaha. Cheers for the input guys, your experience certainly has its merits. Honesty appreciate people who take the time to help idiots like me, so thats for that. Please keep them coming though..

Thanks

start up a project thread everyone likes to read them, and just put up some pics an write wat u wanna do then start askin things one at a time. u'll get a following in no time at all.

start up a project thread everyone likes to read them, and just put up some pics an write wat u wanna do then start askin things one at a time. u'll get a following in no time at all.

I already have a project thread...but dad doesn't want me to spend money on it ATM, so I would call it a project...when i get a job at the end of the year, I'll be able to put money into it then....I was only asking for ideas to go about this the right way..
Cheers

righto. well if ur lookin to do a start id say just find one minor rust area an practice stripping and repairing and proofing like a quarter or somf. but like i said if u need to weld it it makes it complicated.

I have heard of panel beaters turning cars away as the owner had stripped the paint off already. It sounds silly, I know, but some PB's like to do it their way.
It may be worth talking to a few of them around your area just to make sure they'll be interested in doing the job the way you want it done.
I rang 5 or 6 places before I found someone interested in doing mine, most places around here just wanna do smash repairs. Less work and more money.

Yea thanks guys. Thats what I was gonna do Squarepants, I was just getting some basic knowledge of how it should be done, cuz we all know that some PBers will try to sell the unnecessary....therefore ending up in wasted $$$$$$$$$$$. Guys in my area arn't too bad though.
Cheers