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Posted 15 September 2009 - 04:14 PM
I was under the hood the other day & found that the compliance plate in the LX reads 'LX TORANA COUPE' .Dose this mean it can be classed as a coupe?Any one else's read this?
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Posted 15 September 2009 - 04:52 PM
HQ-WB say "Coupe utility" on ADR plate of the 80 body style (ute), so are they a coupe too?
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Posted 15 September 2009 - 05:34 PM
Hi
I know of a LX Torana sedan which has coupe on id tags. Its not a reshell but looks like a factory stuff up.
Chears Neil
I know of a LX Torana sedan which has coupe on id tags. Its not a reshell but looks like a factory stuff up.
Chears Neil
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Posted 15 September 2009 - 05:38 PM
Hi
I know of a LX Torana sedan which has coupe on id tags. Its not a reshell but looks like a factory stuff up.
Chears Neil
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Posted 15 September 2009 - 06:26 PM
Still a hatch to me. Just like an LC/LJ coupe being a coupe even if it's classed as a "2-door sedan"
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Posted 15 September 2009 - 07:28 PM
Hi
I know of a LX Torana sedan which has coupe on id tags. Its not a reshell but looks like a factory stuff up.
Chears Neil
i KNOW OF AT LEAST TWO HATCHES THAT HAVE SEDAN ON THE TAGS, FACTORY STUFF UP
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Posted 22 September 2009 - 01:41 AM
Know of L34 with an A for engine code in PSN number, factory stuff up.
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Posted 30 March 2010 - 08:39 PM
Guys,
My old A9X hatch had sedan on the compliance plate also.
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My old A9X hatch had sedan on the compliance plate also.
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Posted 30 March 2010 - 10:21 PM
I call my SS a Hatchback but on some forms for show 'n Shines it is classed as Coupe but referring back to what has just been said, yes there were stuff-ups at the factory and this letter from an ex Acacia Ridge Assembly Plant worker confirms it.
Hatchback or Coupe it really doesn't matter to me just as long as I can drive it
Regards ... Barry
Hatchback or Coupe it really doesn't matter to me just as long as I can drive it
Regards ... Barry
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Posted 31 March 2010 - 07:30 AM
My flat mate had a XB panelvan with 4dr id tags. That had the D.O.T. guy scratching his head!
I thought coupe= 2 doors?
I wonder when the term 'hatchback' was originally coined?
I thought coupe= 2 doors?
I wonder when the term 'hatchback' was originally coined?
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Posted 31 March 2010 - 07:48 AM
As far as im concerned a Hatch is a car where the rear "hatch" lifts and has direct access to the cabin, where as a Coupe is a 2-door version of the 4-door and has a seperate boot from the cabin.
The bit you lift on the back of a torana is called a "hatch" or "hatch lid" etc never heard anyone refer to it as a boot lid...
The bit you lift on the back of a torana is called a "hatch" or "hatch lid" etc never heard anyone refer to it as a boot lid...
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Posted 31 March 2010 - 08:54 AM
In the LX and UC parts books, the Body Style Code 77 is referred to as a "Hatchback Coupe"..
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Posted 31 March 2010 - 12:16 PM
For clarification, that ^ is opposed to a Hatchback Sedan commonly called a five-door. Pity no Torana's fall into this category. 
LC/J are a 2dr sedan due to the space inside - i.e. five full seats. If the rear roofline dropped, then they would probably be a coupe, which should only seat a max of four (2+2 configuration) or usually just 2 seats.
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LC/J are a 2dr sedan due to the space inside - i.e. five full seats. If the rear roofline dropped, then they would probably be a coupe, which should only seat a max of four (2+2 configuration) or usually just 2 seats.
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Posted 31 March 2010 - 08:29 PM
i thought the difference between the 2door sedan and coupe thingy had to do with the silhouette or shape of the 2door car compared to the 4 door, that if the 2door shape/silhouette was the same as the 4door it was a 2door sedan, but if the silhouette was slightly different ie slightly more slope at the rear then what a 4 door had, then it was a coupe.
the lc/ljs 2doors have the same silhouette as the 4 doors hence them being a 2 door sedan.
look at thje hktg monaros. the silhouette is different between the 4doors and the 2doors thats why they are coupes.
i hope thats correct.
the lc/ljs 2doors have the same silhouette as the 4 doors hence them being a 2 door sedan.
look at thje hktg monaros. the silhouette is different between the 4doors and the 2doors thats why they are coupes.
i hope thats correct.
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Posted 31 March 2010 - 09:24 PM
For clarification, that ^ is opposed to a Hatchback Sedan commonly called a five-door. Pity no Torana's fall into this category.
LC/J are a 2dr sedan due to the space inside - i.e. five full seats. If the rear roofline dropped, then they would probably be a coupe, which should only seat a max of four (2+2 configuration) or usually just 2 seats.
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From the books..
Body Style number 11: Two Door Sedan
Body Style number 69: Four Door Sedan
Body Style Number 77: Hatchback Coupe
Body Style Number 70: Panelvan
Body Style Number 80: Ute
Body Style Number 19: Statesman
not too sure what the Monaro's are.
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Posted 31 March 2010 - 09:43 PM
That makes sense with the 2-door sedan vs coupe thing regarding the silhouettes
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Posted 31 March 2010 - 10:26 PM
The original French meaning of coupe is a 2-door version of a 4 door sedan.
Therefore GTR's and Monaro's are coupes but Corvettes or Mustangs aren't.
I guess since the LJ shares the silhouette then they can also be called 2 door sedan since that is exactly what they are.
Being a coupe doesn't mean it can't also be a Hatchback, since they are describing 2 different parts of the car.
Therefore Holden are correct to call them Hatchback Coupes - they have a hatch entry to the cabin and they are a 2 door version of a 4 door sedan.
Therefore GTR's and Monaro's are coupes but Corvettes or Mustangs aren't.
I guess since the LJ shares the silhouette then they can also be called 2 door sedan since that is exactly what they are.
Being a coupe doesn't mean it can't also be a Hatchback, since they are describing 2 different parts of the car.
Therefore Holden are correct to call them Hatchback Coupes - they have a hatch entry to the cabin and they are a 2 door version of a 4 door sedan.
Edited by niterida, 31 March 2010 - 10:29 PM.
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Posted 01 April 2010 - 05:31 AM
35 WagonFrom the books..
Body Style number 11: Two Door Sedan
Body Style number 69: Four Door Sedan
Body Style Number 77: Hatchback Coupe
Body Style Number 70: Panelvan
Body Style Number 80: Ute
Body Style Number 19: Statesman
not too sure what the Monaro's are.
cheers
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Posted 01 April 2010 - 11:46 AM
Therefore Holden are correct to call them Hatchback Coupes - they have a hatch entry to the cabin and they are a 2 door version of a 4 door sedan.
So a Hatchback Coupe is really a three door?
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Posted 02 April 2010 - 08:15 AM
Yep - they're a shopping trolley
That back door only exists to help the missus get the groceries in!!
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That back door only exists to help the missus get the groceries in!!
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Posted 05 April 2010 - 09:05 PM
I was just looking around on the net and found that SAE (Society of Automotive Engineers) defines a coupe as having less than 33cu ft of rear space - regardless of the number of doors or seats.
So therefore you can have a 4 door coupe or a 2 door sedan - depending on how big either of them are in the rear. Or a 5 door hatchback coupe, or 3 door hatchback sedan
So therefore you can have a 4 door coupe or a 2 door sedan - depending on how big either of them are in the rear. Or a 5 door hatchback coupe, or 3 door hatchback sedan
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Posted 05 April 2010 - 11:47 PM
Lost in the translation?
It would be interesting to know what other dictionaries say but the Heinemann Australian dictionary says coupe' = "An enclosed motor car with 2 doors"
It would be interesting to know what other dictionaries say but the Heinemann Australian dictionary says coupe' = "An enclosed motor car with 2 doors"
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Posted 05 April 2010 - 11:55 PM
Lost in the translation?
It would be interesting to know what other dictionaries say but the Heinemann Australian dictionary says coupe' = "An enclosed motor car with 2 doors"
Maybe - but coupe in French means "to shorten" - nothing to do with the number of doors. And I would take SAE definition as gospel - since they are the gospel.
Edited by niterida, 05 April 2010 - 11:55 PM.
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Posted 06 April 2010 - 12:45 AM
Ha! Ha! Gospel in America maybe.............. 
All you have to do is look at how technical a Detroit is and that will tell you about the Standards of American Engineers.
All you have to do is look at how technical a Detroit is and that will tell you about the Standards of American Engineers.
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Posted 06 April 2010 - 12:48 AM
Ha! Ha! Gospel in America maybe..............
All you have to do is look at how technical a Detroit is and that will tell you about the Standards of American Engineers.
SAE is the Society of Automotive Engineers - world wide accepted body I believe ?
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