Heya, Well i goto put my new tie rod ends on and just wondering if there is any sort of method to get them pretty close to being aligned? or is it just a matter of making both wheels face as straight as possible then winding them on till it lines up? Then take it to a workshop to be properly alligned?
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Setting Up Tie Rod Ends
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, Apr 04 2006 09:11 PM
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Posted 04 April 2006 - 11:08 PM
Count the turns to remove the old ones, screw the new ones on the same amount of turns. Put the car up on ramps and with a measuring tape you are looking for about 3mm toe-in between front and rear of the tyre. Don't adjust just one side to acheive this but equally turn both sides. This is the ball park adjustment to drive it to an alignment.
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Posted 05 April 2006 - 07:08 PM
Count the turns to remove the old ones, screw the new ones on the same amount of turns.
That will only work if the new tie rod enda are the same brand as the old ones. There is some differences in overall lenght between brands. Apart from that, do as Rod said.
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Posted 06 April 2006 - 08:40 PM
If the new end are different for example a longer thread as chopper suggested, use a pair of vernier calipers and measure the exposed thread, then wind the new ones into that measurement, Or find a common point to measure as a guide.
Then once done, just check as Rob said by using the measuring tape between the tyres or lip of the rim. So if there is supposed to be 3mm toe in, measure the distance between the rear of the front tyres, then measure the distance between the front of the rims which should be 3mm shorter than the distance between the rear of the front tyres, hence 3mm toe-in...
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Then once done, just check as Rob said by using the measuring tape between the tyres or lip of the rim. So if there is supposed to be 3mm toe in, measure the distance between the rear of the front tyres, then measure the distance between the front of the rims which should be 3mm shorter than the distance between the rear of the front tyres, hence 3mm toe-in...
Cheers
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Posted 07 April 2006 - 07:08 PM
Just to throw another spanner into the works, the measurement should be taken from the rim lips where the wheel weights are tapped ( belted ) on, half way between top and bottom at the front and rear. The actual measurement should be 1.0 - 1.2 MM, not 3 MM as previously posted. This is because GMH uses the American standard when measuring toe-in. This is measured at the tyre, assuming it has a 28" diameter. So when you measure from the 13" rim, as it is slightly less than half of 28", you use a measurement slightly less than half of 3 MM. Which is why I suggested 1.0 - 1.2 MM, as I usually set them with around 2.5 MM toe-in. Seemed to work a bit better than 3.0 MM.
The other standards for measuring toe-in is the European system, where it is measured at the rim, assuming it's a 14" rim. So the conversion rate is half ( or double ) of the other system. It can make for some interesting tyre wear if you are unaware of the two standards.
The other standard simply uses the toe-in measurement in degrees, which most machines can handle. This method eliminates any confusion, provided you actually know how to read in degrees, whether by metric decimals, or imperial degrees, minutes and seconds.
Hope this has added some confusion.
The other standards for measuring toe-in is the European system, where it is measured at the rim, assuming it's a 14" rim. So the conversion rate is half ( or double ) of the other system. It can make for some interesting tyre wear if you are unaware of the two standards.
The other standard simply uses the toe-in measurement in degrees, which most machines can handle. This method eliminates any confusion, provided you actually know how to read in degrees, whether by metric decimals, or imperial degrees, minutes and seconds.
Hope this has added some confusion.
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