G'Day,
My LC has original 2600 engine with around 60 000 original miles on the clock & was in very good condition when pulled of the road for a resto.It has sat idle for many years now,
Is it possible to re-use engine or will it need reconditioning before it can be restarted again?Will I have to renew fuel lines etc. & will the fuel tank need to be treated before re use? Is there
any way of telling if a complete overhaul is needed?Any advice would be greatly appreciated,
Thanks,
SL loon
Restarting an engine after it has been idle for years
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, Nov 28 2009 06:09 AM
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Posted 28 November 2009 - 08:02 AM
personally i would be:
pullung the head off, checking the bores for rust, and oiling the bores a bit, pulling the sump, one by one pulling the main bearing and big end caps off and re oiling the bearings, pulling the oil pump and packing it with vaso, suirting the cam with some oil wont hurt either. Crank the engine with the plugs out and coil disconnected until you have oil presssure, then start it up
and as your doing this you will notice whather there is any damage to the bores/bearings
I would also be cleanining out the tank and flushing the fuel lines at a bare minimum
pullung the head off, checking the bores for rust, and oiling the bores a bit, pulling the sump, one by one pulling the main bearing and big end caps off and re oiling the bearings, pulling the oil pump and packing it with vaso, suirting the cam with some oil wont hurt either. Crank the engine with the plugs out and coil disconnected until you have oil presssure, then start it up
and as your doing this you will notice whather there is any damage to the bores/bearings
I would also be cleanining out the tank and flushing the fuel lines at a bare minimum
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Posted 28 November 2009 - 09:59 AM
i would also check spring tension as some of the valves would have been completly compressed over the period,if you constantly turned over engine while sitting they should be ok.also some lifters may have blead down so replacement is only cheap.
cheers craig
cheers craig
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Posted 29 November 2009 - 03:17 AM
THANKS GUYS,
For both replies,I'll be putting in a new motor/gearbox in the near(ish) future & I haven't decided if I'm going to run original set up for a while before then,
SL loon
For both replies,I'll be putting in a new motor/gearbox in the near(ish) future & I haven't decided if I'm going to run original set up for a while before then,
SL loon
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Posted 29 November 2009 - 04:05 AM
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Posted 23 April 2010 - 04:29 AM
A recent thread on the same topic:
http://www.gmh-toran...er&fromsearch=1
I ended up deciding to throw caution to the wind & try to start the original 2600 engine after nearly 13 years of sitting idle & armed with a new battery,rebuilt starter motor & new leads & having already flushed the tank & replaced fuel line hose to the fuell pump, I changed the oil,removed the spark plugs & poured a bit of oil into each cylinder & left it overnight. The next morning I put 20 litres of petrol in the tank & installed starter motor & battery & sprayed WD40 down the spark plug holes & tried to turn the engine over, Nothing happened, I then tried jumping the teminals on the starter & was rewarded with a spark & noise from the solenoid & decided that the problem was possibly due to the neutral safety switch & unplugged it & put a jumper wire to bypass the switch. After a brief pause it turned over,I turned it over in short bursts while watching the fuel pump for the fuel to pump through(It was bone dry) It didn't. I thought that it was a fuel pump problem & pulled off the fuel pump & found that it was working,I then blew compressed air up the fuel line gently to make sure it wasn't blocked & siphoned the petrol through to the fuel pump connection before reconnecting the fuel pump & turning it over again.It then pumped the fuel through the fuel pump o.k. so I installed plugs then leads(wrongly) poured some petrol down the carby & turned the key & was rewarded with a cough & splutter before backfiring & sending flames out the carby. After I rechecked leads & found that I had 3 & 4 leads reversed I corrected that I again poured some petrol down the carby & kicked it over & it fired.ran, then stalled twice,Then continued running after a restart fairly smoothly albeit with lots of smoke once up to running temp, probably due to me being over generous with the oil into the cylinders earlier,I then adjusted the timing & found that it ran really well & soon stopped smoking almost entirely.At first it sounded like there was a slight ticking sound from a tappet or lifter so I removed the rocker cover only to find that it had completely stopped making anything but the usual sounds it was supposed to. It now is running faultlessly after 13 years of not running at all. Admittedly it had only done 62000 miles since new & was in very good condition 15 years ago when I bought it & started on what was to be a respray, but turned into a complete overhaul. I am amazed,I thought it would be completely stuffed after all this time,I was expecting to find lots of sludge/gunk etc. to show up in the oil & in the radiator etc. after it had been run for a while.But so far both are showing no signs of anything like it.
THANKS for all advice given beforehand on this forum by members.
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Posted 28 April 2010 - 06:41 PM
I had an old 2250 out of my 1st torana sitting semi covered outside for 2 1/2 years, the ports had snails spiders etc, dropped it back in and fired her up...ran as good as the day it was pulled out
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Posted 28 April 2010 - 07:33 PM
in the lx parts car we just bought it has a 173 that hadnt been
started for over 5 years and all we did was check fluids and
she started after a bit of cranking and ran pretty good till it ran out of
gas when we tried to put it in gear it wouldnt move
and oops no trans fluid lol we cant start it on petrol though because
the fuel lines are blocked
started for over 5 years and all we did was check fluids and
she started after a bit of cranking and ran pretty good till it ran out of
gas when we tried to put it in gear it wouldnt move
and oops no trans fluid lol we cant start it on petrol though because
the fuel lines are blocked
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Posted 28 April 2010 - 08:41 PM
Come on guys of course it will run with no probs after sitting for ages its a HOLDEN 
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Posted 29 April 2010 - 05:40 PM
For f*cks sake getting it running isn't gonna be a problem. The trick is in doing it without reducing its life by about 80000ks.
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Posted 29 April 2010 - 07:10 PM
This is pleasing to know.
I still haven't tried to start mine yet.....didn't wanna wreck it...
I still haven't tried to start mine yet.....didn't wanna wreck it...
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Posted 29 April 2010 - 07:27 PM
the mini engine will be fun. the mud wasps found my house
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Posted 02 May 2010 - 03:15 AM
in the lx parts car we just bought it has a 173 that hadnt been
started for over 5 years and all we did was check fluids and
she started after a bit of cranking and ran pretty good till it ran out of
gas when we tried to put it in gear it wouldnt move
and oops no trans fluid lol we cant start it on petrol though because
the fuel lines are blocked
lol 202's must be tough or something done the same with mine 5 years in a shed no start inch of dust etc etc
though i did remove the coil for a few cranks to bring some oil pressure up
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Posted 02 May 2010 - 05:02 AM
VN started leaking coolant too fast to drive anywhere so, rego'd the VB (253) which hadn't been started for over a year.
Charged the battery and cranked it over (installed a start button- dodgy ign switch) until fuel started pumping into the carb, then ign on and fired within about 5 revs!
All good! Even with 1yr old fuel????
Charged the battery and cranked it over (installed a start button- dodgy ign switch) until fuel started pumping into the carb, then ign on and fired within about 5 revs!
All good! Even with 1yr old fuel????
Edited by Gunmetal LH, 02 May 2010 - 05:03 AM.
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Posted 18 May 2010 - 12:07 PM
started mine recently after 8 years, just changed the oil + new oil/fuel filters + carby elements and bang, good as new.. the old tappet noise seemed to have fixed itself as well.
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Posted 18 May 2010 - 12:38 PM
yep they bleed the oil out of them
then repressureize after about 5 minutes or so
i don't tend to worry about that much as most holden motors i've had over the years tend to have some sort of tappet noise at start up
then repressureize after about 5 minutes or so
i don't tend to worry about that much as most holden motors i've had over the years tend to have some sort of tappet noise at start up
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Posted 25 May 2010 - 05:31 PM
Mate i started my 202 in my 1 tonner after it had been sitting for over 22yrs !!!, the interesting thing though is i dident change the oil, fuel or take any precautions what so ever, fuel down the carby, hit the key... They do tend to cough and go on for a couple minutes with possible tapper noise, smoke etc but then come good.
Before people say it YES the oil and fuel should have been changed but the car was not in the position to be easily played with at the time and needed to be started in order to be moved from the crampt area.
Before people say it YES the oil and fuel should have been changed but the car was not in the position to be easily played with at the time and needed to be started in order to be moved from the crampt area.
Edited by shadowmaster, 25 May 2010 - 05:31 PM.
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