hi i been reading on a few other forums that once you run a 10 second pass you got to put harnesses and cages in you car? the 308 i bought is ment to go 10.8s at 126mph and ive put it in a pretty stock LH so will i still get to run it
thanks shane
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Posted 20 December 2009 - 06:36 PM
I just ran my first 10sec pass last night they let the first one go and pulled me up on the second you will need a cage harness and tech inspection and UDL licence
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Posted 20 December 2009 - 06:39 PM
As soon as you run a 10.99 the law (ANDRA) writes down your details and kicks you out.
Just get on the breaks at 1000 foot.
Cheers Trent
Just get on the breaks at 1000 foot.
Cheers Trent
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Posted 21 December 2009 - 07:09 AM
"I just ran my first 10sec pass last night they let the first one go and pulled me up on the second you will need a cage harness and tech inspection and UDL licence"
I saw you run on Saturday LJ355. Very impresive..
I saw you run on Saturday LJ355. Very impresive..
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Posted 21 December 2009 - 04:10 PM
Thanks mate you should of come and said hi !
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Posted 22 December 2009 - 07:51 AM
hi i been reading on a few other forums that once you run a 10 second pass you got to put harnesses and cages in you car? the 308 i bought is ment to go 10.8s at 126mph and ive put it in a pretty stock LH so will i still get to run it
thanks shane
Depends on what track you run at. Heathcote isn't ANDRA cert. so you can run a ten without a cage. Most other tracks you will need to abide by the ANDRA rules. These include needing a 4 point harness to run an 11. At WSID they aren't too picky until you run a ten, then they want a tech inspection before you return. If you run an 11 they will get you to park it until you buy a Super Street licence but won't really go over the car.
Good luck with it !!!
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Posted 22 December 2009 - 08:40 AM
Also you said you bought the motor and it has done 10.8. But what car was that in with what weight/gears/box/stall and suspension set up. If you say your lh is fairly stock it may not run as quick as it did with the last car if it was set up for drags.
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Posted 22 December 2009 - 01:54 PM
Also you said you bought the motor and it has done 10.8. But what car was that in with what weight/gears/box/stall and suspension set up. If you say your lh is fairly stock it may not run as quick as it did with the last car if it was set up for drags.
yeah i know it was in a lh 5000 stall 4.33 gears un tubbed 90/10 shocks.mines uses the same box/stall but 4.11 gears and mini tubbed so a bit more rubber got to buy some 90/10s shocks after its rego d so i im kinda hope its comes close i just dont want to put a cage and harness in it dont like that look
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Posted 22 December 2009 - 11:50 PM
In sydney guys get booted after they run a 10 twice,usually they'll wait a few months then come back & do it again.
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Posted 23 December 2009 - 06:54 PM
Take some timing out and run 11.00, that way you only need a tailshaft loop,battery isolater, 4 point harness and a super street licence.
By the time you put in a cage, buy a suit and pay for a udl is it worth spending $1500-2000(cheaper if you build your own cage) to go 2 tenths faster.
By the time you put in a cage, buy a suit and pay for a udl is it worth spending $1500-2000(cheaper if you build your own cage) to go 2 tenths faster.
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Posted 24 December 2009 - 07:13 AM
yeah itll prob run 11 s 12s till i learn to steer it and get it sorted thanks for the help
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Posted 24 December 2009 - 12:55 PM
Short shifting & Take timing out both should slow you down a little bit, But why not put a cage in it, it's your saftey we're talking about here, Ive been running 10's for some time now in a street registered LC & even before i ran 10's the first thing i done was a 4 point cage,4 point harness & bigger tailshaft all for saftey, Just recently i up graded to a 8 point cage & put it on Methanol & de-registered it, just my thought
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Posted 12 January 2010 - 09:12 AM
I wouldn't be too worried mate. Like others have said it theres things u can do to brings the times up to 11.0, not to mention that it will probably take some time to get it to run 100% perfect and reel off a 10 anyway.
I know a bunch of guys that now have cages, but were occassionally dipping into the 10s for years (at WSID). If your cars is in S/ST and it runs 11.0-11.1s all day, if the conditions are perfect you might fluke it and do a 10.9 once but that doesn't mean that they'll ban you from the track. If they can see that the car is designed to do easy 10s then obviously its a different story.
Now my mates car runs 10.7s but he still races in super street. When he runs 10.7s its got open pipes and a big pro stock scoop. He found that if he runs his street exhaust and the smaller hornet scoop it will run 11.1s again which is his dial in for S/ST. He also used to sand bag it sometimes. Its better for consistancy to do something like that than screw around backing off etc.
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I know a bunch of guys that now have cages, but were occassionally dipping into the 10s for years (at WSID). If your cars is in S/ST and it runs 11.0-11.1s all day, if the conditions are perfect you might fluke it and do a 10.9 once but that doesn't mean that they'll ban you from the track. If they can see that the car is designed to do easy 10s then obviously its a different story.
Now my mates car runs 10.7s but he still races in super street. When he runs 10.7s its got open pipes and a big pro stock scoop. He found that if he runs his street exhaust and the smaller hornet scoop it will run 11.1s again which is his dial in for S/ST. He also used to sand bag it sometimes. Its better for consistancy to do something like that than screw around backing off etc.
Cheers
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Posted 12 January 2010 - 07:47 PM
I know its sort of not a problem for me....and I'm not sure how many ppl it affects...but what if your 10 second car has number plates? how does the cage sit with rego authorities?
reason I ask is the car i just bought has a 1/2 cage in it.....
reason I ask is the car i just bought has a 1/2 cage in it.....
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Posted 12 January 2010 - 10:51 PM
Can be legal but isn't necessarily. The laws basically regard vision (whether the cage impairs the driver's) and bodily clearance, particularly head clearance (so if you aren't wearing a helmet and you get in an accident, your head doesn't hit a rollcage where it would have just hit more air if there was no cage), which is why you need the padding and shit.
That cage is just a bolt-in job and would be piss-easy to remove if you didn't want it.
That cage is just a bolt-in job and would be piss-easy to remove if you didn't want it.
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Posted 13 January 2010 - 09:40 AM
FastEHHolden,
I asume your putting the roll cage in to a sedan, you'll have to put padding on the rear bars for passenger saftey, i would also check with the rego branch (or some one here might know) weather the rear bars have to be located as close as possible to the roof line & to the outer edge as possible & the rear bars must follow the C pillar.
If your putting it in to a 2 door vehicle once you fit a taxi bar (bar behind the front seats) it must be registered as a 2 seater & the rear seat & seat belts have to be removed for rego.
These are the rego rules for QLD reguarding roll cages not sure about Centeral coast NSW
I asume your putting the roll cage in to a sedan, you'll have to put padding on the rear bars for passenger saftey, i would also check with the rego branch (or some one here might know) weather the rear bars have to be located as close as possible to the roof line & to the outer edge as possible & the rear bars must follow the C pillar.
If your putting it in to a 2 door vehicle once you fit a taxi bar (bar behind the front seats) it must be registered as a 2 seater & the rear seat & seat belts have to be removed for rego.
These are the rego rules for QLD reguarding roll cages not sure about Centeral coast NSW
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