Has anyone fitted an off the shelf or fabricated from scratch a heat shield to the starter motor of their holden V8? I need to get some heat away as after a long run on hot days the starter wont kick over until everything cools down. Car is LX with 355 and pacemaker extractors, starter is brand new bosch unit. There is plenty of clearance between starter and extractors.
any drawings, pics etc would be great.
Starter motor heat shielding
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Posted 24 December 2009 - 12:59 PM
I Have the same problem, pacemaker extractors aswell (it's bad when it happens at a busy servo). I was a bit slow at working out what the problem was 
sorry I can't help.
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Posted 24 December 2009 - 01:00 PM
I have not tried either of these but they look like a simple solution.
http://www.summitrac...rts/DEI-010402/
http://www.summitrac...arts/THE-14150/
http://www.summitrac...rts/DEI-010402/
http://www.summitrac...arts/THE-14150/
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Posted 24 December 2009 - 01:23 PM
I used one off a GEN III powered VY or equivilant. You can buy them from holden for about $6 and they clip onto the starter solenoid, I think I had to trim mine slightly though
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Posted 24 December 2009 - 02:42 PM
I just wrapped the starter in the adhesive silver sided wrap, that works ok with the BB and the headers run pretty close.
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Posted 24 December 2009 - 05:06 PM
Another thing to check would be your alternator's charge rate.
If you have a newish battery, and your charge rate is low, it's not un-common for the car to be hard to start after a drive.
What can happen is, as you drive, the battery can become too flat to start the car.
Then, after a rest, a good battery can recover and start the car.
It may not be heat related, rather, time related.
Loose terminals can cause the same problem.
If you have a newish battery, and your charge rate is low, it's not un-common for the car to be hard to start after a drive.
What can happen is, as you drive, the battery can become too flat to start the car.
Then, after a rest, a good battery can recover and start the car.
It may not be heat related, rather, time related.
Loose terminals can cause the same problem.
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Posted 24 December 2009 - 05:55 PM
Thanks for the tips guys, appreciate the help
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Posted 24 December 2009 - 07:33 PM
Mine did exactly the same thing on hot days and I also have pacemaker extractors but changing the solenoid fixed my issue.
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Posted 24 December 2009 - 08:09 PM
Mine was doing the same thing on my 202. I recently fitted a Bosch Hi-torque gear reduction starter and it doesn't seem to have the same problem, it's been really good (and sounds great when cranking). I would still like to sheild it though to help it last a bit longer. My old man used to make them back in the day when he had his auto electrical business, he told me he used to screw them to the starter housing (with very short screws obviously) but the clip on idea sound better to me. I will keep an eye out for one of those.
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View GaragePosted 24 December 2009 - 08:16 PM
I have a high torque starter too and the extractors actually rest on it, no problems with heat since it was fitted a few years ago
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Posted 25 December 2009 - 07:10 AM
Anyone got a pic of the factory type from a late model commodore?
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Posted 25 December 2009 - 10:07 AM
You'll probably find it will crank normally if you short the starter with a screw driver, so heat shield is a good idea but i'm not sure if it will fix the problem.
A high torque starter fixed my 202 aswell and i use a CVR gear reduction starter on a chev lj with no problems. I've just used a heat sleeve on the main cables at the engine to the starter, and the same heat wrap they use on headers to wrap the wires on the starter terminals where the sleeve won't cover. From memory the sleeve and wrap is High Energy brand bought from the likes of Auto Barn.
A high torque starter fixed my 202 aswell and i use a CVR gear reduction starter on a chev lj with no problems. I've just used a heat sleeve on the main cables at the engine to the starter, and the same heat wrap they use on headers to wrap the wires on the starter terminals where the sleeve won't cover. From memory the sleeve and wrap is High Energy brand bought from the likes of Auto Barn.
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Posted 26 December 2009 - 01:06 PM
You'll probably find it will crank normally if you short the starter with a screw driver, so heat shield is a good idea but i'm not sure if it will fix the problem.
A high torque starter fixed my 202 aswell and i use a CVR gear reduction starter on a chev lj with no problems. I've just used a heat sleeve on the main cables at the engine to the starter, and the same heat wrap they use on headers to wrap the wires on the starter terminals where the sleeve won't cover. From memory the sleeve and wrap is High Energy brand bought from the likes of Auto Barn.
i did this too, works well. my extractors sit on the starter motor as well
Edited by greens nice, 26 December 2009 - 01:07 PM.
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