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Posted 20 March 2010 - 06:51 AM

I assume its been discussed before may times, and if so can you point me in the right direction.
What happened to this most significant car?
i, sure this puzzle has been solved but i have read very little about it.
i thought Dick J had it, and then to nixon smith..
I recall it being tipped up at bathurst around 75 and dragged upside down on to a pick up truck.
from there i know nothing.
I assume it was split/ scarpped.
Just curious

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Posted 24 March 2010 - 06:22 PM

i think it was put on its lid in 73 ?. I remember watching it roll and the comentry was i think (a sad end to last years winner)

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Posted 24 March 2010 - 06:25 PM

So that means both '72 cars were totalled....bummer.....

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Posted 24 March 2010 - 07:54 PM

i think it was put on its lid in 73 ?. I remember watching it roll and the comentry was i think (a sad end to last years winner)



then this Car Has have been rebodied twice then???
once in 10/72 and then again in 3/4/73???

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Posted 24 March 2010 - 08:00 PM

LOL, but its still original !!

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Posted 24 March 2010 - 08:11 PM

I know where one of them is........

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Posted 24 March 2010 - 08:26 PM

I know where one of them is........



Wasn't it one of these cars that sold in 2006 for over half a million ??? I know it was one of Brocky's LJ's that did..

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Posted 24 March 2010 - 10:41 PM

The one that sold for a packet if i remember correctly was the #1 1973 Car driven by Brock and it was owned by the Tate family. This is the same car that was at his memorial at Sandown.

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Posted 25 March 2010 - 05:52 AM

i have never heard that car being refered to as the Bathurst winner,
I thought it was the atcc winner.?
Is i said i asume it must be no more as it would rate as the most famous XU1. if it did survive, people would know where it is or be at least hunting it down.
as i say i dont know the answer and would be interseted to find out

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Posted 25 March 2010 - 10:36 AM

I know where 28 C is,the same ownwer still has it.

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Posted 25 March 2010 - 10:47 AM

Is it in good nick or cactus?

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Posted 25 March 2010 - 10:59 AM

The original 28C was rolled as most people know,all of the parts were fitted on to another shell,I meet the owner of 28C at xu-1's on the mountain in 2002, he all ready had owned for 15 years,so i don't know what happened to its a original shell,i never got that far to ask him,or what happened to the rest of it,but in those days were different,i suppose when it was done in those days,to the remove all the good bits onto the new shell,and take the old one to the tip.

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Posted 25 March 2010 - 12:22 PM

I thought the Glen Amos HDT 28c LJ XU-1 was the real deal,so its not then ?????????

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Posted 25 March 2010 - 01:17 PM

The original 28C was rolled as most people know,all of the parts were fitted on to another shell,I meet the owner of 28C at xu-1's on the mountain in 2002, he all ready had owned for 15 years,so i don't know what happened to its a original shell,i never got that far to ask him,or what happened to the rest of it,but in those days were different,i suppose when it was done in those days,to the remove all the good bits onto the new shell,and take the old one to the tip.

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Interesting, so what you are saying is, bar the shell (which i agree if damaged would likely have been dumped as of no value) the "bones" exist.

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Posted 25 March 2010 - 02:19 PM

I believe it lives in northern nsw, but there are a few of group c cars that were completely reshelled. It is always a sticky one regarding racecar reshells. If it raced again after the new shell I dont see any problems at all. The shell was just a spare part from holden after all.

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Posted 26 March 2010 - 05:14 AM

your right 31 the reshell always opens a can of worms, and race car histories are always a difficult thing due to constant changes.
I guess what i was curious about at the start of this thread is whether the car was split with parts spread all over the place and essentially lost for ever, or if indeed the ""car" or parts there of, can claim to be originlly part of that car.

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Posted 26 March 2010 - 08:39 AM

When i spoke to glen in 2002,i ask him what was its colour underneath the HDT colours,it was silver,i took a lot of photo's of it and close up one's also.It was running alot of group 3 items,like the original 8 and 9inch magneisum wheels different fuel tank,its carbies were dual throats,and one of its throats were blocked off,so only 3 were working,it had a QL engine block with a 73 head,the interior was also stock and torana steering wheel,and its rollcage.It had its vin tag,its adr was 8/72,but its body id plate was in the glove box,because of the bonnet pins.On that sunday before the big race Peter Brock drove 28C for the first time since 1972,he led us all around the mountain on a parade lap,there was a 114 xu-1's behind peter brock, I was doing 90 mph around the track on that parade lap with our head lights on,if any of you got the issue 5 australian muscle mag you will see the photo's,there is a photo of my car on top of the mountain,with the lights on on the parade lap,it was one of the best events that i have been too and one that i won't ever forget.

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Posted 26 March 2010 - 06:27 PM

When i spoke to glen in 2002,i ask him what was its colour underneath the HDT colours,it was silver,


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Posted 13 April 2012 - 07:45 AM

Thread resurrection!

My understanding is that it went 28C - T car 73 bathurst - Barry Nixon Smith rolled at Bathurst 74 - turret replaced & sold to Dick Johnson, car was the Peter Hill Menswear sponsored yellow LJ he raced - Dick blew the engine up then sold the car to my father Kerry Cox in 76, dad rebuilt the engine and most of the car and raced it in 77 & 78 in the qld touring car champs, won in 77, runner up to dick in 78, Dad repainted the car into the livery you see in my avatar, dad knew the turret had been replaced but that was all, he had the original cams logbook and the owners manual that had Harry Firth listed as the original owner, the chassis numbers matched when dad had it. The engine block could have been replaced by dad but i'll ask him.

dad sold the car to someone in townsville as a road car, dad heard it was crashed up there but we never heard what happened to it, i have since found out that Glen Amos bought the car from this fellow who wanted to get rid of it when he found out it was an ex racer.

Apparently Glen has recently stripped back layers of paint on the car to find underneath the paint described above, and should have the car at Bathurst this year, i'm hoping to go down and look at the car. Dad has told me about a couple of identifying markings on the car that should identify the shell...

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 07:25 PM

My opinion. Brock races a car, crashes it, it's reshelled he continues to race it in that new shell, and still exists today, original HDT car.
Brock races it, sells it, a year later rolled by another team, reshelled and continued to be raced, it's no longer the Brock car. The fact is however it probably continued to use the same logbook.
If this car has only had a turret change though, thats nothing really and is essenially still the same car.

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 09:19 PM

yeah and by turret i mean only the outer skin, not the structural panels, he found evidence of that when he painted it in late 76..

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Posted 23 October 2015 - 05:29 PM

Looks to be silver first 28c a first month 72................. with LGN347 ADR tag 8 month 72 ALJ107##A which got hit from behind in Shepparton in October 1973

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