49 replies to this topic

[A9X]

No sweat Leigh, no offense taken

It's an argument that annoys me with its inconsistency.

While i understand the argument that i've offered, and have been forced to comply with a 'limited' road use registration, our company utes must have ROPs to access local minesites.

Now ROP's rules aren't any different to cage rules, of course ROPs don't run side intrusion nor lock the car together like a race cage.
But the argument is the same.
ROP's are allowed unconditional road use.

Worse still, Aust Standards states the ROPs must be destruction tested for compliance.

None of the local engineering firms have crash tested anything.

But, them's the rules

[A9X]

I have seen a few bond cages recently in cars at work, as part of the mine sites new requirement of ROPS.

If you actually follow the guidelines for QLD they dont comply, but for some reason there blue plated.

Probably why there three times the price they should be.


Cheers.

Yes you did, and it's obviously not just the banana republic

[Statler]

Rego the car with a 4pt cage. Drill the holes for the front bars. Bolt the front legs & intrusion bars on at the track.
It takes about the same amount of time to change the rear wheels.

Everybody is

[A9X]

Eh ???

[orangeLJ]

Is there a way around the strict "roll cage" laws by implying to the engineer that its a ROPS structure for access to a mine site?

Its definitely a stretch, but could be a possible loop hole?

How do the 4x4 guys get away with the "exo-cages" some of them run??

[enderwigginau]

in nsw you can not have a roll cage of any description anymore.i was the cause of the streetmachine artical a few years ago now. i had a cage in my car and had to cut it out...

the rta's excuse is that it makes it to hard to cut you out of the car incase of an accident,my rebuttle was if i was in an accident and the cage had to be cut,it would have saved me already.
in saying that,you *may* find a few country engineeers that arent upto speed on some of the rules.if you know what i mean

That is incorrect.
You CAN have a cage in NSW but you need to find an engineer prepared to approve it.

The bird running the RTA sent a memo out to all engineers stating that they will not approve cages in road cars - this demand was against the law. Moot, I'm sorry you got caught up in the shambles that ensued.
Bond and others are still able to supply complying cages and have them certified.
Re-read all the info posted with regard to NCOP and side intrusion etc.
Many cages and race seats will mean removing the back seat and registering the vehicle as a two seater.
If you have a two door car and a back seat, all front seat MUST move forward to allow access.

I have an issue with the lack-a-daisical spread of rules -
in NSW, as long as you use the original mounts for seats, no need for an engineer.
in QLD, if not standard fitment, blue plate time (it has been suggested that LJ seats in an LC should incur a blue plate but I've yet to see it)

My back seat is made up of two Recaro buckets, originally constructed (and certified) by Roman Autotech. It is attached to the standard seat frame and clips up like a normal seat - legal in NSW, needed blue plate in QLD........

Grant..

[enderwigginau]

Talk to BOND then.

They'll explain how they ARE legal. �They are currently STILL in court against the RTA, so cages cannot be banned until the RTA actually proves it's case - which it can't.

Grant..

[orangeLJ]

so wait, ROPS are acceptable or not??

Is there a loop hole or is it still a developing loophole?

[Stinga]

Agreed, just photo edit out all the illegal shit on that car.

Cheers.

it would just be a picture of a crumpled rear quarter



looks like the cage did its job