Excuse my ignorance... What's the difference between a 'LH TORANA SLR 5000' and a 'LH TORANA SLR 5000 with XU2 Option'? Someone was referring to their SLR this way!! I can't tell the difference, all the tags appear to be the same!!!
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What's the difference?
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Posted 29 May 2010 - 11:51 AM
As far as I know, the XU-2 option is the SL/R 5000.
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Posted 07 June 2010 - 11:13 AM
As far as I know, the XU-2 option is the SL/R 5000.
That would be correct unless it looks like this?
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Posted 07 June 2010 - 05:19 PM
I didn't think there was such a thing as a XU-2, I thought that was the name that was branded about and suggested by some but officially was never used. as for the pic I think (as in remember reading ages ago) that Leo Purnao (spelling) Holden's designer did that drawing and he put the XU 2 badge on it but Holden never used it. No doubt there will be an expert on here with the real story. So I will leave my comments as what I read years ago from memory rather then as stated fact
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Posted 07 June 2010 - 05:37 PM
My early '74 LH parts manual shows a heap of XU2 stuff, including decals like above.
Basically any SLR option/part is labelled as XU2.
It has all been neatly lined through by the original owner and replaced with SLR on pen.
Basically any SLR option/part is labelled as XU2.
It has all been neatly lined through by the original owner and replaced with SLR on pen.
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Posted 07 June 2010 - 06:16 PM
Yep my LH Workshop manual also shows decal placement for XU-2 decals but not SLR/5000.
From what i have gathered from AMC and other sources it is what the SLR was gonna be called but it got canned.
From what i have gathered from AMC and other sources it is what the SLR was gonna be called but it got canned.
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Posted 07 June 2010 - 07:40 PM
Leo Pruneau Holden's designer did that drawing and he put the XU 2 badge on it
It's not a drawing, it's an actual car - the prototype I believe.
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Posted 07 June 2010 - 08:20 PM
its interesting to note how similar those side stripes look to the SS stripe used on the hatches...obviously they used this styling in designing it when the time came.
Leo Pruneau Holden's designer did that drawing and he put the XU 2 badge on it
It's not a drawing, it's an actual car - the prototype I believe.
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Posted 07 June 2010 - 08:36 PM
its interesting to note how similar those side stripes look to the SS stripe used on the hatches.
I believe they're called rally stripes and I've read and heard on more than one occasion that SL/R stood for Sports Luxury / Rally.
Sports Luxury / Racing seems to be the most commonly known term.
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Posted 07 June 2010 - 10:05 PM
Flares
Round head lights
Bonnet scoop
GTS mags = HQ stud pattern
Is this maybe a styling exercise for the up coming L34 but early enough to be caught up with the original XU2 naming debate that was internal to GMH.
Basically following the "Super car scare", all three manufacturers were told to stop with the hot rods. So producing the "V8" evolution of the XU1 was probably to hot, so they came up with the SLR.
Plausible?
Round head lights
Bonnet scoop
GTS mags = HQ stud pattern
Is this maybe a styling exercise for the up coming L34 but early enough to be caught up with the original XU2 naming debate that was internal to GMH.
Basically following the "Super car scare", all three manufacturers were told to stop with the hot rods. So producing the "V8" evolution of the XU1 was probably to hot, so they came up with the SLR.
Plausible?
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Posted 07 June 2010 - 10:43 PM
XU-2 is the production option code for the SL/R 5000. The story goes that the XU-2 production option code had been designated to the Bedford truck division but the paperwork was rescued by a bloke named McInnes (I think) at the last minute and reassigned to the LH SL/R 5000.
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Posted 08 June 2010 - 03:08 AM
XU-2 is the production option code for the SL/R 5000. The story goes that the XU-2 production option code had been designated to the Bedford truck division but the paperwork was rescued by a bloke named McInnes at the last minute and reassigned to the LH SL/R 5000.
I've read that story in the History of Torana magazine.
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Posted 08 June 2010 - 06:41 PM
oh ok.
its interesting to note how similar those side stripes look to the SS stripe used on the hatches.
I believe they're called rally stripes and I've read and heard on more than one occasion that SL/R stood for Sports Luxury / Rally.
Sports Luxury / Racing seems to be the most commonly known term.
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the only stripes ive ever heard referred to as Rally Stripes have been the LC GTR bonnet stripes.
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Posted 08 June 2010 - 10:30 PM
Leo Pruneau Holden's designer did that drawing and he put the XU 2 badge on it
It's not a drawing, it's an actual car - the prototype I believe.
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No I it is not an actual car at all but a clay mock-up hence the black windows
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Posted 08 June 2010 - 10:35 PM
Very plausible!Flares
Round head lights
Bonnet scoop
GTS mags = HQ stud pattern
Is this maybe a styling exercise for the up coming L34 but early enough to be caught up with the original XU2 naming debate that was internal to GMH.
Basically following the "Super car scare", all three manufacturers were told to stop with the hot rods. So producing the "V8" evolution of the XU1 was probably to hot, so they came up with the SLR.
Plausible?
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Posted 08 June 2010 - 10:36 PM
I would say more like it had no interior? 
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Posted 08 June 2010 - 10:45 PM
No I it is not an actual car at all but a clay mock-up hence the black windows
Fair enough, I didn't know that but my point stands it was not a drawing.
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Posted 09 June 2010 - 12:17 AM
Yep my LH Workshop manual also shows decal placement for XU-2 decals but not SLR/5000.
From what i have gathered from AMC and other sources it is what the SLR was gonna be called but it got canned.
G/day Bomber
To my knowledge that is 100% correct. GMH was going to put XU-2 on the LH Torana but decided not to because of the media uproar in 1972 over the XU-1 V8, so opted for S/LR 5000 instead. Must have been so close to production to have printed workshop manuals showing placement of XU-2 decals.
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Leo Pruneau Holden's designer did that drawing and he put the XU 2 badge on it
It's not a drawing, it's an actual car - the prototype I believe.
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No I it is not an actual car at all but a clay mock-up hence the black windows
100% clay mock up. Very hard to see in that scanned photo but there is a support stand behind the rear wheel where the axle tube would be.
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Posted 09 June 2010 - 12:30 AM
Here's a couple of hatchback clay mock ups. Hopefully you can see the support stands in each of these pics.
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Posted 09 June 2010 - 09:52 AM
Notice how sharp the panel lines on those clay mockups are. They must have softened the production ones a bit, you can clearly see that lower one.
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