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#1 _73xu1_

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Posted 07 August 2010 - 07:43 PM

hi all
i am in no way a diff expert.
a guy once told me a borg-warner or was it a salisby internals will fit into a 9 inch carrier?
the kind man has since passed away so i cant ask for him to explain.
can any one help me?
can some one explain how it is done?
mite seem pointless to have such a set up but i have some better ratios and lsd"s etc for some diffs but none to suit my 9 inch.
hope some one can shed some light on it for me
regards peter

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Posted 07 August 2010 - 07:47 PM

I'm no expert either, but, I do not believe you can put anything into a 9 " diff other than a 9 " centre. R. Maybe I'll be proven wrong.

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Posted 08 August 2010 - 01:50 AM

I doubt that fitting anything other than 9" internals in a 9" carrier will be a budget option.


Strange engineering do make a 12-Bolt drop in centre section to suit the 9" housing.
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Posted 08 August 2010 - 09:26 AM

it is a quistion that has been playing on my mind for awhile now so hope someone can answer it.

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Posted 08 August 2010 - 01:23 PM

I'm a bit confused about what you actually want to do?

The only attraction I'm seeing to this at the moment is if you had an original looking car that was originally fitted with a 9" (like say an old GT Falcon that had a lot of go), and you were really keen on getting the unsprung mass as low as possible, or if you had a vehicle where it was very hard to adapt different diff housings to.

But with a housing as big as a 9" unit, and enough money, you could fit pretty much any Banjo-style or Salisbury-style 'gear' into it, by constructing some kind of third member that holds it all together and bolts into the diff housing with the standard 9" case bolt/stud pattern. But if you already have a 9", you already have access to heaps of good ratios, LSDs/spools/ratchet lockers, probably viscous LSDs and everything else you can think of, good lightweight 3rd members, nice big side gears for 31 or 35 splined axles if that's what you're after, etc.

Putting 9" internals in a smaller diff housing on the other hand, that sounds more useful & intriguing.

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Posted 08 August 2010 - 03:06 PM

a guy once told me a borg-warner or was it a salisby internals will fit into a 9 inch carrier?


What exactly do you mean by internals?
The LSD?
The gears?
I spose they will fit in there, bolting them up and getting them to work would be a whole different story.

Then again, with the third members you are able to get your hands on the only limits are your imagination.

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Posted 08 August 2010 - 04:40 PM

thanks for the replys everyone.
by the sounds of things there is no simple answer to my question.
the reason i ask is i have a 9" in a 6 cyl lj torana and it is an open center and to high a ratio for my purpose.
the 9" is an over kill i agree but it come up for sale at the right price. it had been shortend etc so a pair of 245's fit under really well. im able to get a borg-warner lsd 3.08 ratio cheap so maybe i was cutting corners.
the guy who told me about it made it sound like a simple swap so maybe i missed something.
thanks for the help again

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Posted 10 August 2010 - 12:55 PM

Hi, No Borg Warner or salisbury gears or limited slip will go into a 9 inch housing. The only thing your mate might of mentioned, is the a Standard 9 inch axle (28 spline) is the same spline as a later model borg warner & 10 bolt salisbury diffs as they are 28 spline aswell.



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Posted 16 August 2010 - 01:20 PM

73xu1, would have probably been better to begin with that information :P

You could sell the 9" and get a Borg Warner made up to be the same width and the same stud pattern as what you have, but there is a bit of time & money in setting up rear brakes, handbrake mechanism, tailshaft etc. Depends on what you want to do with the car but it is PROBABLY easier for you to just get a different 9" gearset and buy a Truetrac centre or similar. Unless you have a real need to, I wouldn't suggest doing anything exotic. If you care about 20kg of unsprung mass, or you want to change other rear end geometry, that's a good oppurtunity to go for a lighter diff, but if you don't value those things then swap the pinion & crown wheel for one that suits you better (probably won't cost you anything if you find someone who has what you want, and wants what you have) and buy a decent LSD.

Edited by Heath, 16 August 2010 - 01:22 PM.


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Posted 16 August 2010 - 04:00 PM

Wassa truetrac center ?

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Posted 16 August 2010 - 07:00 PM

A Truetrac is a worm drive torque sensitve limited slip diff currently made by Eaton. It is a good all round diff but it never provides 100% torque to both wheels.

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