dangerous steering coupling?????
#1 _dave720gtr_
Posted 06 May 2006 - 09:50 PM
These steering couplings for the torana lj lc in neoprene are week
And could possibly cause steering failure?
My friend replaced one like this one red neoprene 12 months ago!
The other day he was pushing his car out of the shed when it SNAPED!
ONE OF The bolt riped through the neoprene .it only takes one and its all over
there are no link plates bettwen the bolts? there suss!
mines got one on it and its coming off! i think LH one mite be the go?
or make some link plates ?
what do you think ? one bolt rips through it could spell disaster!
dave,,,,,,,,
#2 _rorym_
Posted 06 May 2006 - 11:06 PM
R
#3 _LJ355_
Posted 07 May 2006 - 10:02 AM
#4
Posted 07 May 2006 - 11:05 AM
Evan.,..
#5
Posted 07 May 2006 - 11:15 AM
I have seen a few of these LC ones and the LX type put on without the washers under the bolt head which would make it far easier for them to pull through the polyurethane.
I was just interrested to see if that is the problem or did the poly split through the side?
My rubber one broke on my old LC too so they are not infallible either but it was getting pretty old admittedly.
M@
#6 _TOBES_
Posted 07 May 2006 - 12:41 PM
I'm also highly suspicious of the 'cotter pin?' that secures the shaft to the standard universals. My old push bike had the same arrangement for the pedals and I nearly lost the family jewels on the cross bar several times when they stripped...!
Also M@, what do the Subaru racks use here?
#7 _LJ355_
Posted 07 May 2006 - 01:20 PM
Lee.
Edited by LJ355, 07 May 2006 - 01:21 PM.
#8 _73LJWhiteSL_
Posted 07 May 2006 - 01:36 PM
Steve
#9 _dave720gtr_
Posted 07 May 2006 - 02:33 PM
yes it pull through the side there is nothing stoping them from doing thisAny pics of the failure? I would be interrested to see.
I have seen a few of these LC ones and the LX type put on without the washers under the bolt head which would make it far easier for them to pull through the polyurethane.
I was just interrested to see if that is the problem or did the poly split through the side?
M@
as thay dont have any link plates ?
This will snap or tear long before the coter pins will strip?
no photos the guy is in NT on a fishing trip for 3 weeks when he gets back
i will take a pic or two
cheers dave....
#10 _rorym_
Posted 07 May 2006 - 02:45 PM
Rory
#11
Posted 07 May 2006 - 09:05 PM
Maybe this is an item which should be checked for wear every time you open the bonnet. which for me is every time I start it up
Cheers
Loui
#12 _dave720gtr_
Posted 07 May 2006 - 10:01 PM
But if it can snap when pushing the car out the shed
i think it could do the same if you hit a big pot hole !
ether way i dont like them ,
#13
Posted 07 May 2006 - 10:36 PM
I wonder where you buy these from? if the manufacturer should be made aware of this! Sounds a bit dodgey to me!!
#14 _dave720gtr_
Posted 08 May 2006 - 06:47 PM
Yer Tiny i just thourght that people should be AWARE! of this this is not the only one i have seen fail.Great Info dave!
I wonder where you buy these from? if the manufacturer should be made aware of this! Sounds a bit dodgey to me!!
I am not going to point the finger at a precise manufacturer
But i will say this, It was the red one that failed on my mates 2 weeks ago!
then there is fulcrum there blue: There is 2 or 3 manufacturer
were do you get the rubber ones RORYM!??
But not that i think it maters what colour it is? if it made of the same crap in the photo above neoprene" put a hose clamp like LOUI said on it just in caise?
I have seen this done on the old rubber ones two extend their life.
cheers ...dave...
#15 _efi-202_
Posted 08 May 2006 - 08:21 PM
#16 _TOBES_
Posted 08 May 2006 - 10:09 PM
General wear and tear?
Poor design and engineering?
Heat? Extractors are on the other side with a six so that just leaves general under bonnet heat.
Oil and grease perhaps, as you have to use special grease on bushes, etc?
For example I bought some used sway bar links with Nolathane bushes about a year ago and threw them in a box for future reference. The bushes must have copped a dose of something toxic as they have turned to cheese and are falling apart. I mean literally dropping off in small sticky peces and leaving a red stain on my fingers...
Not all poly's are created equal either...
Lee, would love some photos...
I am putting a 1UZ in my UC and need to run a single 3" exhaust pipe right past this coupling so clearance and heat are the main problems.
What really has me worried tho is my boy's UC running a 350 Chev. We have finally found a set of Pacemakers for it, the ones with two pipes running each side of the steering shaft to give it a nice even toasting... A couple of steel universals on splined shafts would give me some peace of mind. There are some things I would put up with or do to my own car that are simply unacceptable on his!!!
Cheers
Bill
#17
Posted 08 May 2006 - 10:14 PM
Regardless its good info, and i would prefer if the actual names and brand were NOT divulged for the above reasons!
Thanks
#18 _LJ355_
Posted 08 May 2006 - 10:35 PM
Lee.
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#19 _TOBES_
Posted 08 May 2006 - 10:35 PM
As I said they are second hand so i have no idea how old they are or what they may have been dosed in...
It does highlight the need to look after this material and be careful what they come in contact with. Just thinking about it then, these couplings are not too far from the brake master cyl. Brake fluid???
#20
Posted 08 May 2006 - 10:47 PM
Cheers
#21 _devilsadvocate_
Posted 09 May 2006 - 01:25 PM
Gather it got put there to stop problems of contamination from other underbonnet fluids.
#22 _HatchmanSS76_
Posted 09 May 2006 - 01:30 PM
I managed to buy the last 5 origonal items in Adelaide last year.
#23 _dave720gtr_
Posted 09 May 2006 - 05:38 PM
This is why there failing . may be thay run on two much Of an angel to fit the link tags? im unsure. i just dont like the ider of 1/2 inch of Neoprene around a sleeved bolt being the only thing holding your steering Together! the rubber may fall apart or brake fluid oil or petrol?will stuff them . Very true... you would have to be crazy to run your extractors ,anywere near The rubber/ neoprene steering cupling.
AND tobes! its neoprene ,1uz turbo dump pipe? no way. fit the LH one or do what lj355 has done to his
thats wicked work there lee! top job mate ,
cheers dave
#24 _TOBES_
Posted 09 May 2006 - 09:50 PM
Made a few calls today and waiting to see what turns up.
Might also check out what Subaru use. If M@ can sort the Subby rack conversion we would be among the first in line, so maybe it pays to keep our options open???
#25 _torana05_
Posted 09 May 2006 - 10:39 PM
My two cents worth!!
Andrew 2.
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