And the fact that if not used correctly it slowly kills you.
Just being alive is slowly killing you.
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Posted 01 February 2011 - 12:40 PM
Just being alive is slowly killing you.
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edit: (meant as reply to TerrA LX)
I was saying the opposite, bog is better if you can use it properly. The reason it has a bad reputation is that, unlike lead, you can do a half-arse job of it.
I was saying the opposite, bog is better if you can use it properly. The reason it has a bad reputation is that, unlike lead, you can do a half-arse job of it.
Edited by 76lxhatch, 01 February 2011 - 01:57 PM.
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Posted 01 February 2011 - 02:55 PM
There is a coach builder in Crookwell (Pretty sure its Crookwell).
With an appointment he will conduct small clubs through his premises and you get to see the number of classic cars he is restoring, what panels he cant buy he makes himself.
He gives demonstrations on lead wiping (filling) and will even let you have a go yourself, he demonstrates many of the old arts including using a slapper ( not a scrubber lol )
The cost of his tours is minimal and well worth it.
Here is his website: http://www.svcr.com.au/tour4.htm
I dont believe he has time to answer phone calls on "how do I do this" or generally chat about cars. He is extremely busy.
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The panel guys on the TV show Gasoline gave a demonstration on lead wiping. Interesting stuff.
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Posted 01 February 2011 - 04:56 PM
How is lead superior in every way to bog when its about a million times heavyer???
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Posted 01 February 2011 - 06:37 PM
There is a coach builder in Crookwell (Pretty sure its Crookwell).
With an appointment he will conduct small clubs through his premises and you get to see the number of classic cars he is restoring, what panels he cant buy he makes himself.
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The panel guys on the TV show Gasoline gave a demonstration on lead wiping. Interesting stuff.
Damn shame we don't get that program in Canberra and I really dislike watching that stuff on the pc. I am sure I would be a regular viewer if circumstances were different
But yeah it is very interesting and enlightening when explained by a pro Coach Builder, pity it was so long ago when I was there that I cant remember much, I need to revisit!
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Edited by Herne, 01 February 2011 - 06:38 PM.
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Posted 01 February 2011 - 07:05 PM
I used to do lead wiping really enjoyed it very satisfying to get a good finish, as for whats better, how long is a piece of string
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Posted 02 February 2011 - 07:13 AM
I found this lead solder kit on ebay for $139.00,
Just wondering what you guys think about it as an alternative to Mig welding or bog to repair dents, small rust holes etc
It seems pretty easier,as all you need is a small blow torch
This Basic Starter Kit includes:Item number: 320649147255
1 x Flat lead paddle
1 x Half round lead paddle
4 x Sticks of lead (0.5kg each)
1 x 450gram Jar of tinning paste
1 x 450gram tub of paddle lube
I am in the process of doing the same. I got all my gear from the guy on Gibbs road. Not a kit but everything I need. I also got hold of some great DVD's which teach the process well. The rest is just practice. I'll get some pics on my repair soon on here soon. There is some good stuff on good old YouTube about it as well. Just search "Lead Loading"
http://www.gmh-toran...st-repair-help/
Bog Vs Lead? The answer is whatever you wanna use and what level of attention to detail you are after in your repair. Its an amazing skill / process that is rarely used anymore so why not learn something that was done on these great cars in the day. Always good to hear what others have to say but at the end of the day, you will only find out by giving it a go yourself.
Edited by ribz0, 02 February 2011 - 07:16 AM.
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Posted 02 February 2011 - 01:38 PM
They no longer use it because it is heavy and it KILLS YOU.
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Posted 02 February 2011 - 01:52 PM
so does bog if you don't wear ppe
although a lot slower
i thought it was more because it is more labor intenisive, more likely to cause damage to panels in new cars and the materials are more costly and harder to get
just like mig welding vs oxy welding
although a lot slower
i thought it was more because it is more labor intenisive, more likely to cause damage to panels in new cars and the materials are more costly and harder to get
just like mig welding vs oxy welding
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Posted 02 February 2011 - 05:18 PM
i,ve noticed on a few of the hot rod shows that they only use lead.
and these shops are the best in the u.s.a.
i,ve always wanted to give it a go,and being flexable in some areas would be a good thing,but bog is your friend as wot179 once said.
and these shops are the best in the u.s.a.
i,ve always wanted to give it a go,and being flexable in some areas would be a good thing,but bog is your friend as wot179 once said.
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Posted 02 February 2011 - 06:45 PM
so does bog if you don't wear ppe
although a lot slower
i thought it was more because it is more labor intenisive, more likely to cause damage to panels in new cars and the materials are more costly and harder to get
just like mig welding vs oxy welding
I think repair costs coupled with the construction of modern cars would be the two driving factors behind the switch from lead to bog as a panel filler.
Panel beaters don't file finish panels anymore, just cover the whole panel with a layer of bog if necessary.
You couldn't economically (or possibly physically) do that with lead.
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