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#1 boomfunk

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Posted 31 March 2011 - 09:26 AM

Hi guys,

A question i have, is it legal to have a bench seat.. being 3 seater in a 1 tonner with a floor shift auto?, does it need to be column shift or can it be floor shift?

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Posted 31 March 2011 - 09:41 AM

Yes

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Posted 31 March 2011 - 10:41 AM

Why not, you could order a 4spd floor shift with bench seat right from when a Holden was fitted with a 4spd (M20 in HD/R). I think the last though would have been late 1984 WB. You could never get a floor shift auto with bench though, all were column shift right up till the last VSIII in 2000 (sold up till early 2001). I don't recall ever seeing a floor shift manual with bench in VG-VSIII either.
In a HQ-WB tonner you'd probably have to use a cable shift as you'd never be able to move the seat forward with a rod T-bar fitted. Something like a B&M.

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Posted 31 March 2011 - 11:52 AM

Why not, you could order a 4spd floor shift with bench seat right from when a Holden was fitted with a 4spd (M20 in HD/R). I think the last though would have been late 1984 WB. You could never get a floor shift auto with bench though, all were column shift right up till the last VSIII in 2000 (sold up till early 2001). I don't recall ever seeing a floor shift manual with bench in VG-VSIII either.
In a HQ-WB tonner you'd probably have to use a cable shift as you'd never be able to move the seat forward with a rod T-bar fitted. Something like a B&M.



sure i saw a vg with bench and manual once
i'll ask my m8t who was working with me at the time
cause i'm just an antagonostic old bastard :)

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Posted 31 March 2011 - 12:55 PM

Cool, would be good to know if original.

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Posted 31 March 2011 - 01:02 PM

i'll ask him next time a see hin
not sure if the authorities will like a hole cut in the floor but been based on the sedan version can't see how they can argue it
just make sure you seal it well
and if you go b_+m i think they only run the hole for the cable out of the cabin

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Posted 03 April 2011 - 04:22 PM

obviously if thats not the way it was from the factory u will need a modification plate but otherwise its ok

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Posted 04 April 2011 - 07:46 AM

I don't recall ever seeing a floor shift manual with bench in VG-VSIII either.


A 5-speed manual floor shift & seating for 3 was standard equipment for all A9K Utes from VG to VSIII.

To answer the original question, I'm not sure that a floor shift auto with a 3-seater bench would be ADR legal. A manual shifter with a rubber boot thru the floor is one thing, but an auto shifter needs a 'PRND321' indicator by law & that's where you would run into leg clearance & impact injury problems.

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Posted 04 April 2011 - 08:59 AM

Dr Terry you are right of course, makes sense at the 5spd was the standard box. I've just never seen one before (or taken any notice if I did). I only looked at S's when I bought mine in 12/2000 and there was only column shift bench seat or T-bar bucket seat VSIII Holden utes left at that stage. In order to get a manual I had to buy an S.

For a floor shift T-bar you might get away with a low height shifter like one of the 70's Japanese cars.




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