Has anyone on the forum here used or is still using the ethanol blend fuel? if so does the car perform better? Is is better than premium unleaded?
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Edited by 355lxss, 17 May 2006 - 01:01 PM.
Ethanol blended petrol
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Posted 17 May 2006 - 12:59 PM
Was thinking about using this blend of fuel in my daily driver commy? If heard mix responses about the fuel and im not quite sure if it will cause anydamage to my engine? Im guessing not as its only 10% ethanol?
Has anyone on the forum here used or is still using the ethanol blend fuel? if so does the car perform better? Is is better than premium unleaded?
regards eddie
Has anyone on the forum here used or is still using the ethanol blend fuel? if so does the car perform better? Is is better than premium unleaded?
regards eddie
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Posted 17 May 2006 - 01:11 PM
It's my understanding - rightly or wrongly that 10% ethanol mix is Ok and will not damage your engine. I do not know about performance figures for it as a premix.
I currently do not use it simply because outlets in the Canberra region are very limited.
When and if my local BP start to sell it then unless I hear bad reports about it I will use it . If on a trip I don't think I would hesitate to refill with it.
Cheers
Herne
I currently do not use it simply because outlets in the Canberra region are very limited.
When and if my local BP start to sell it then unless I hear bad reports about it I will use it . If on a trip I don't think I would hesitate to refill with it.
Cheers
Herne
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Posted 17 May 2006 - 01:12 PM
Been using it in all my cars, including the Torrie (it gets Premium E10) for the last 3 years now.
More Info:- http://www.renewablefuels.com.au
The problem with Ethanol is that it is a solvent. Any higher than 35% and it starts eating the soft metal alloys found in your carburettor housings, fuel pumps etc, and causes damage. In levels of 10% though it generally only cleans out the fuel systems (i.e. once you change over, bank on changing your fuel filter after a few tanks of the stuff).
If they ever change over to 100% ethanol, you have to change your carburettor, fuel lines, inlet manifolds and pumps over to items not containing the solvent prone metals.
I've had no problems running the stuff in any of the cars.
More Info:- http://www.renewablefuels.com.au
The problem with Ethanol is that it is a solvent. Any higher than 35% and it starts eating the soft metal alloys found in your carburettor housings, fuel pumps etc, and causes damage. In levels of 10% though it generally only cleans out the fuel systems (i.e. once you change over, bank on changing your fuel filter after a few tanks of the stuff).
If they ever change over to 100% ethanol, you have to change your carburettor, fuel lines, inlet manifolds and pumps over to items not containing the solvent prone metals.
I've had no problems running the stuff in any of the cars.
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Posted 17 May 2006 - 01:29 PM
all i use is the 95 octane ethanol added and I wouldnt use anything else, even the work hilux go much better on it and seem to get good economy. Not only that but it is 4 cents a litre cheaper here.
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Posted 17 May 2006 - 02:22 PM
yeah well thats one of the reasons why i was thinking of changing over to the ethanol blend fuel as its cheaper than regular fuel. Last week a servo here in adelaide had some sort on promotion (it was on today tonight) where certain servo's were selling the blended fuel around 10cents cheaper than anyone else up untill midnight on that day. I bet there would of been a few cars lining up at those prices!!!
migth give a go then.
migth give a go then.
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Posted 17 May 2006 - 02:43 PM
If it's for a daily - then go for it, it's only a good thing.
If it's for a once-a-month car (many Toranas) - then think carefully about it.
As Pat said, it will eat the soft alloys, and it will eat certain rubber parts as wel (hoses and seals). So if you intend to leave the vehicle sitting for a month til the next drive, it's probably best not to put any ethanol blend in the tank.
Grant..
If it's for a once-a-month car (many Toranas) - then think carefully about it.
As Pat said, it will eat the soft alloys, and it will eat certain rubber parts as wel (hoses and seals). So if you intend to leave the vehicle sitting for a month til the next drive, it's probably best not to put any ethanol blend in the tank.
Grant..
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Posted 17 May 2006 - 06:56 PM
been using it for ages.
in an efi car just change your fuel filter after the first tank
in an efi car just change your fuel filter after the first tank
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Posted 17 May 2006 - 10:34 PM
In the workshop dunger I put a tank into it and was suprised on how crap it actually ran, next tank went with the regular unleaded and it was magically better, maybe i should try renewing the fuel filter and running a few more tanks but on one tank I didnt like it. The difference in performance was astounding and when you've got f*** all to start with you dont like to lose it (1989 Triton 2wd with a big steel tray 
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Posted 17 May 2006 - 10:43 PM
Hey all,
Have been using E10, only since last year,
have a servo locally that sells it now,
seems to run fine in the old 253 in the LX,
and the 1997 Subaru, as well as my FireBlade,
Good power, no bad effects that I have seen,
and the big thing, same price as regular unleaded.
I will check the filters, see if has cleaned the fuel system.
Cheers
Chris.
ps all these vehicles where previously tuned whilst running on 98 RON fuel,
ie Optimax, Ultimate etc
Have been using E10, only since last year,
have a servo locally that sells it now,
seems to run fine in the old 253 in the LX,
and the 1997 Subaru, as well as my FireBlade,
Good power, no bad effects that I have seen,
and the big thing, same price as regular unleaded.
I will check the filters, see if has cleaned the fuel system.
Cheers
Chris.
ps all these vehicles where previously tuned whilst running on 98 RON fuel,
ie Optimax, Ultimate etc
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Posted 18 May 2006 - 09:13 PM
man put some on a rag and it will clean anything. your fuel system will be stripped 100% of crap
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Posted 18 May 2006 - 11:47 PM
http://www.autoindus...4/00000005.html
That site has ALOT of good info for those considering it, and shoots down alot of the bullshyte thats getting around too.
Also has manufacturers recommendation or not whether its suitable.
BTW, I use it in the truck and I have a noticable difference especially when pulling a full load, it runs much better with the slightly higher octane in the E10 blend. I cant always get it though as no-one locally sells it.
That site has ALOT of good info for those considering it, and shoots down alot of the bullshyte thats getting around too.
Also has manufacturers recommendation or not whether its suitable.
BTW, I use it in the truck and I have a noticable difference especially when pulling a full load, it runs much better with the slightly higher octane in the E10 blend. I cant always get it though as no-one locally sells it.
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Posted 19 May 2006 - 11:10 AM
interesting, might get the old girl tuned with BP ultimate, then try this e10, what servo's sell it?
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Posted 19 May 2006 - 09:13 PM
My biggest concern for this fule is the fact that it blantantly states at the pumps not to be used in any aero applications. Sorry but if it aint good enough for a plane then it is not good enough for my cars. Besides, isnt a torana ment to fly...? LOL
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Posted 19 May 2006 - 09:45 PM
Strange warning to see on the pump, you wouldnt try and fuel up the plane with regular unleaded either, was there a warning on that pump as well?My biggest concern for this fule is the fact that it blantantly states at the pumps not to be used in any aero applications. Sorry but if it aint good enough for a plane then it is not good enough for my cars. Besides, isnt a torana ment to fly...? LOL
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I dont think there is intrinisically anything wrong with using a ethanol based fuel in planes and from what Ive read it will be a feasible replacement for leaded aviation fuel. The fuel is still in the testing and accreditation stage for aviation and of course a standard has to be established that will be consistent amongst suppliers etc that can be confidently used.
Edited by devilsadvocate, 19 May 2006 - 09:57 PM.
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