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ADR's and later model pollution motors

Started by lakeside , May 21 2006 11:18 PM

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#1 lakeside

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Posted 21 May 2006 - 11:18 PM

I have a 12/70 lc 2dr, can use my blue 308 block in the lc with no pollution drama?

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#2 _dannylxss_

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Posted 21 May 2006 - 11:22 PM

if its a hq/pre polition no worries mate :spoton:

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#3 _LX_SS_

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Posted 22 May 2006 - 12:29 AM

i believe the rules are something like you cannot use a motor made before the vehicles build date,and if u use a engine out of a vehicle that had all the polution gear i.e. 77 onwards (for example) it must retain the emissions components that the engine came with

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Posted 22 May 2006 - 12:35 AM

The above is my belief too. I will look in the book of words and try to confirm. I will be fitting a VK 3.3 to a LJ sooner or later. I did fit a 2.6 Sigma eng. to an early Galant when I was in business and had to hook up everthing that the Sigma had as far as pollution gear. Then get a letter head from the local dealership workshop to confirm that all was well. Never a mention of brake upgrade, but the owner had read up and got me to fit a Lancer booster/and/or/(can't remember) master which gave it terrific brakes. From memory all we did was fit a charcoal canister and run a line from the fuel filler neck to the canister and fit a vac hose to the carb. and a non vented cap to the tank. It was auto and chirped going into 2nd all bog stock. That will be about the same as fitting the 3.3 to the LJ.
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#5 Gump

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Posted 22 May 2006 - 10:36 AM

forgive me if im wrong but isnt a vk 3.3 just a black 202. if so ive heard (but never had or driven) that they are a terrible motor thirsty as an alco in the middle of a desert.

but they cant be that diffrent from a blue/red can they?

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#6 _MYLJ_

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Posted 22 May 2006 - 11:24 AM

I think it varies from state to state, but as far as I know in Victoria you do not need to fit the pollution gear if the car is pre-pollution, it would be worth checking with an engineer and the person doing the roadworthy certificate though.

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#7 Dr Terry

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Posted 22 May 2006 - 11:48 AM

Hi Guys.

Torrietree said - "forgive me if im wrong but isnt a vk 3.3 just a black 202. if so ive heard (but never had or driven) that they are a terrible motor thirsty as an alco in the middle of a desert."

Only if the carby needs an overhaul. The Varajets have an issue with the float absorbing fuel & sinking, when they get old. This results in a high float level & excessive fuel consumption.

Overhaul the carby & fit a new float & they run fine. The Varajet is a very underated carby.

Dr Terry.

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#8 MRLXSS

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Posted 22 May 2006 - 12:20 PM

wasnt a VK 3.3l Fuel Injected? wouldnt that mean it would have a carby?

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#9 _Yella SLuR_

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Posted 22 May 2006 - 12:33 PM

I didn't think fuel injection appeared till the VN. Happy to be proven wrong on that though. Who needs fuel injection anyways.

I do believe you need to comply with the later requirements, i.e. VK motor, then you need VK pollution stuff. My car only has a HZ intake manifold, and engineer required post-ADR27A cannisters just for that reason, two for good measure because it also has a drop tank.

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#10 Dr Terry

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Posted 22 May 2006 - 12:36 PM

Hi Guys.

Black 3.3 6s come in 2 varieties, EST (Carby) & EFI. The EFI version was standard on the Calais & optional on the others.

Because the carby version is far more commonplace than the EFI & I didn't see the term EFI mentioned, I naturally assumed rodomo was referring to the carby motor.

The same fuel usage issue also applies to the EFI motor though. In a good state of tune, with the EGR working & clean injectors the Black 3.3 EFI motor is not that thirsty either. Having said that, later engines with oxygen sensors do get better economy.

Dr Terry.