Driving along a side street doing 60 km/h my rear passenger wheels decide to off.It broke 2 studs and wheel went flying down the road and hit a car.No one thats the main thing...Where can i get some sronger wheel studs? Im running a 9" mini spool 4.11 31 spline.not much damage to the torana only the flair guard and brake disc.
Wheels studs(2) broke and wheel come off.
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, Nov 20 2011 08:32 PM
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Posted 20 November 2011 - 08:41 PM
You will probably find the wheel nut holes in the rims have elongated, which means replace the rim. if the disc is damaged, replace that too. The studs probably broke due to the rim coming loose, not the rim coming loose due to the broken studs. Replace all five anyway. Don't blame the studs because somebody probably didn't tighten the wheel properly. That is the most common reason wheels depart company from a vehicle, other than stuffed threads on nuts.
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Posted 20 November 2011 - 08:56 PM
And alloy spacers breaking - DON'T RUN ALLOY SPACERS (use steel) ones !
Bathurst XU-1s did on the front (trivia)
Bathurst XU-1s did on the front (trivia)
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Posted 20 November 2011 - 09:00 PM
i checked the nuts this morning before i went to torana meet upn bayswater.They were tight.Maybe in was the rim. im getting new rims next week and wheel studs.Can i get stronger wheel studs ? Arp?
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Posted 20 November 2011 - 09:02 PM
Some AU Falcons had factory "wheel spacers" too. Just avoid all spacers full stop.
But as a 9" conversion is listed, it doesn't appear to me spacers were used.
But as a 9" conversion is listed, it doesn't appear to me spacers were used.
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Posted 20 November 2011 - 09:04 PM
I just threw in the spacers analogy for good measure ! 
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Posted 20 November 2011 - 09:09 PM
Could be a damaged rim or the taper damaged on the nuts. I'm not sure on what brand studs are available.
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Posted 20 November 2011 - 09:23 PM
ARP, Moroso, and a million other companies make studs.
Work out what size you need and browse Summit.
Cheers.
Work out what size you need and browse Summit.
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Posted 20 November 2011 - 09:27 PM
Driving along a side street doing 60 km/h my rear passenger wheels decide to off.It broke 2 studs and wheel went flying down the road and hit a car.No one thats the main thing...Where can i get some sronger wheel studs? Im running a 9" mini spool 4.11 31 spline.not much damage to the torana only the flair guard and brake disc.
AFAIK over tightening of the wheel nuts can also cause the studs to sheer.
So 2 studs sheered off and the wheel parted company with the car.
If you don't mind me asking, what happened to the other 3 studs that should have kept the wheel on?
Edited by S pack, 20 November 2011 - 09:28 PM.
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Posted 20 November 2011 - 09:36 PM
AFAIK over tightening of the wheel nuts can also cause the studs to sheer.
Correct.
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Posted 20 November 2011 - 09:37 PM
Step up to 1/2" wheel studs if you haven't already
We'ren't using Commodore wheels on a HQ pattern were we ?
Never ever let anyone tighten your wheels with a rattle gun either
We'ren't using Commodore wheels on a HQ pattern were we ?
Never ever let anyone tighten your wheels with a rattle gun either
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Posted 20 November 2011 - 09:38 PM
99.9% of retards at tyre shops use rattle guns to tighten wheels = BAD !
Torque wrench or cross brace = GOOD !
Torque wrench or cross brace = GOOD !
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Posted 20 November 2011 - 09:49 PM
The other 3 studs were still on the axel,thats why i cant believe that the nuts did not hold them on.
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Posted 20 November 2011 - 09:51 PM
Hmmmmmmmmmm....
Sounds like some ones got it in for you...
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Sounds like some ones got it in for you...
(be afraid, be very afraid)
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Posted 20 November 2011 - 09:57 PM
99.9% of retards at tyre shops use rattle guns to tighten wheels = BAD !
Torque wrench or cross brace = GOOD !
The retards use guns to break studs. I use guns to nip them up and then use a torque wrench. If a shop doesn't have at least two torque wrenches, go elsewhere.
And gallego, from what you have posted one of three things happened:
#1 Loose wheel nuts.
#2 Damaged rim and/or nuts.
#3 Incorrect wheel/ locating hub on axle too big.
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Posted 20 November 2011 - 09:57 PM
So you checked the wheel nuts... and 2 studs broke...and 3 nuts are missing
Doesn't sound too 'well checked'
Doesn't sound too 'well checked'
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Posted 20 November 2011 - 10:15 PM
So you checked the wheel nuts... and 2 studs broke...and 3 nuts are missing
Doesn't sound too 'well checked'
Most likely scenario, 3 wheel nuts came loose or were loosened (sabotaged) by some f#@wit, the 3 nuts came off completely and the remaining two studs with nuts still attached couldn't take the strain so they snapped off.
As Gordon said,
Sounds like some ones got it in for you...
(be afraid, be very afraid)
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Posted 20 November 2011 - 10:24 PM
So you checked the wheel nuts... and 2 studs broke...and 3 nuts are missing
Doesn't sound too 'well checked'
If all 5 were "loose" and uhh hmmm "checked" with the wheel on the ground it is "possible"
to think you've tightened them but the wheel was actually on an angle thus giving the impression the nuts were tight...
Still....
(be afraid, be very afraid)
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Posted 20 November 2011 - 10:26 PM
If the owner did check them by hand, it could well be that there was some crap in the thread that made him think they were tight when it was just the crap that was interfereing.
If he can put a 9" in his car, surely he can tighten wheel nuts properly.
If he can put a 9" in his car, surely he can tighten wheel nuts properly.
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Posted 20 November 2011 - 10:30 PM
surely he can tighten wheel nuts properly
apparently not
OR...
(be afraid, be very afraid)
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Posted 21 November 2011 - 08:11 AM
I would still check the centre hubs of the 9" conversion, just to be sure. If the left hub wasn't turned down enough, thre's no way the wheel would be able to sit properly on the axle. This of course would allow the wheel to come loose.
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Posted 21 November 2011 - 11:14 AM
I would still check the centre hubs of the 9" conversion, just to be sure. If the left hub wasn't turned down enough, thre's no way the wheel would be able to sit properly on the axle. This of course would allow the wheel to come loose.
My first thought also.
I'm seeing more of these so called 'professional' 9" conversions of late where the centrebore plays no part in securing the rim.
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Posted 21 November 2011 - 11:29 AM
My first thought also.
I'm seeing more of these so called 'professional' 9" conversions of late where the centre bore plays no part in securing the rim.
That is because the axle locating hub is only there to help align the rim and in most cases the brake disc. It has to no part in securing the rim, once the bolts are tightened there will be a gap between the axle locating hub and the rim.
What Chopper is saying is to check that the centre bore in the rim is large enough to fix over the axle hub. If the hub is too large or the rim centre bore is too small this will prevent the rim sitting down on the axle when the wheel nuts are tightened. If this was the case then eventually the rim will work its way onto the axle leaving the nuts loose.
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