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#1 _richylj_

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 09:22 PM

Just wandering if anyone knows, roughly how much kgs of sand is needed to sandblast a k frame on a lj torana? The frame is out of the car, had all the bushes and ball joints replaced, and upon fitting then notcied a lot of gunk and tiny surface rust. If anyone could give me a rough idea, would be appreciated

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 11:58 PM

G'day Richy,

 

I've got a pot 10 gallon sandblaster and I would guess 50KG sifted and run through twice.  Very limited experience, only used mine for 10 mins till I realised I need a bigger compressor.

 

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 03:33 PM

If you don't have the equipment for it and it's still all apart get it done professionally, just before christmas I had my whole front end sand blasted primed and powdercoated black and springs red and it cost me $200 cash for everything and it looks like new.  Just make sure it's free from greese and oil otherwise you'll pay more. Oven cleaner is better than chep degreaser I've found.



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Posted 20 February 2013 - 04:00 PM

I have the 10 gallon as well and like you found i need a bigger compressor, just went to Supercheap and got the gravity fed sandblaster for $50, just in the middle of making a blasting box to use it.



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Posted 20 February 2013 - 08:15 PM

Thanks boys, I shall get elbow grease working with some oven cleaner, but seeing its put together loosely, I might take it down to get sandblasted. Ive got a 50lt 2.5 hp compressor, I wonder if that would be capable if I was to do it myself???

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 10:27 PM

you might need a bigger compressor bud, unless you dont mind having a beer every 5 mins



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Posted 21 February 2013 - 05:04 PM

Here is a guide below from a sandblasting site on the consumption of abrasive to air volume through the various blast nozzle sizes.

On average the largest compressor you will be able to purchase/run on single phase 240 V is a 16 cfm compressor.

Otherwise like Azer said you will be waiting around a long time for your compressor to catch up.

Most compressors larger than this require 3 phase power.

As you can see in the chart even a 16 cfm compressor will struggle to feed an 1/8" nozzle consistently.

Dropping the blast pressure to 70 - 80 psi will also help prolong blast time before you need to wait for the compressor to fill back up but will not rip the paint and gunk off as quick.

Adding a slave tank (air receiver) will increase the volume of compressed air but take longer to fill once the pressure drops (because of the increased air volume).

To make a second air receiver find yourself an old air compressor tank (in good condition) and feed from your compressor outlet into the tank then out again to the equipment.

Just plug off any of the additional holes in the tank if they are not required.

These air receivers are also available and purpose built from compressor companies.

A water trap and filtration (after the receiver) will help to keep the moisture low in your air line so the sand does not stick together in the delivery tube after a longer period of blasting due to condensation build up.

Commercial compressors use built in refrigerated dryers to remove the moisture from the air systems.

Stand alone refrigerated units can be retrofitted (mounted to the workshop wall) after the compressor to do the same thing but are expensive.

A friend of mine purchased one for his 16 cfm compressor recently for $1400.

Size is approximately 500mm Wide X 400 H X 200 D.

He also placed primary filters (5 micron) and secondary filter (1 micron) into the system and rang up another $350 for these two units with fittings.

But now he has clean and dry compressed air for all of his paint and blasting work in his shed.

 



Nozzle Size


Air Consumption


Abrasive Consumption


Blast Hose Size (I.D.)


Air Hose Size (I.D.)


1/8" #2


21 CFM @ 100PSI


55KG/HOUR


1/2" 12MM


3/4" 19MM


3/16" #3


45 CFM @ 100PSI


120KG/HOUR


3/4" 19MM


1" 25MM


1/4" #4


81 CFM @ 100PSI


225KG/HOUR


3/4" 19MM


1" 25MM


5/16" #5


140 CFM @ 100PSI


375KG/HOUR


1" 25MM


1-1/4" 32MM


3/8" #6


200 CFM @ 100PSI


500KG/HOUR


1-1/4" 32MM


1-1/2" 38MM


7/16" #7


255 CFM @ 100PSI


700KG/HOUR


1-1/4" 32MM


2" 50MM


1/2" #8


340 CFM @ 100PSI


900KG/HOUR


1-1/2" 38MM


2" 50MM


 



 



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Posted 21 February 2013 - 05:28 PM

Here is the chart

Nozzle SizeAir Consumption/ Abrasive Consumption/  Blast Hose Size (I.D.)/ Air Hose Size (I.D.)

1/8" #2        / 21 CFM @ 100PSI  /  55KG/HOUR                   /     1/2" 12MM                 /   3/4" 19MM

3/16" #3      / 45 CFM @ 100PSI  / 120KG/HOUR                  /     3/4" 19MM                 /   1" 25MM

1/4" #4        / 81 CFM @ 100PSI  /  225KG/HOUR                 /       3/4" 19MM               /   1" 25MM

5/16" #5      /140 CFM @ 100PSI /  375KG/HOUR                 /       1" 25MM                  /   1-1/4" 32MM

3/8" #6        /200 CFM @ 100PSI /   500KG/HOUR                /       1-1/4" 32MM            /   1-1/2" 38MM

7/16" #7      /255 CFM @ 100PSI /   700KG/HOUR                /       1-1/4" 32MM            /    2" 50MM

1/2" #8        /340 CFM @ 100PSI /   900KG/HOUR                /       1-1/2" 38MM            /    2" 50MM



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Posted 21 February 2013 - 11:54 PM

Thanks Beans, good info there.



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Posted 23 February 2013 - 08:41 AM

Thanks beans, I've got onto a guy who does portable sandblasting to cone around and give a crack to my k frame with a 4000psi pressure washer, a lot cheaper then sandblasting it. But I'm hoping to get similar results on the grime. There is a Burnie surface rust. But I will rub it back a bit and prime it. If this fails, I will get him to sandblast




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