_maccyturdrunner_
Posted 01 August 2013 - 02:29 PM
Hi All,
Was wondering if anyone could help me? Were LC gtr quarter panel badge holes welded at factory for XU1's? or did the xu1 have no holes at all in body?
I have an original LC GTR under resto and noticed the badge holes in quarters have been brazed/welded? Doesn't make sense that someone would try and make a replica XU1 out of an original GTR LC82911? The car was built in Adelaide and is Lina mint in colour.
Has anyone got an original Xu1 that may know?
Thanks
JAson
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Posted 01 August 2013 - 08:48 PM
no holes in rear quarters for GTR badges in my XU1, welded or otherwise
_oz772_
Posted 01 August 2013 - 09:34 PM
The holes were drilled for GTR's only. They were the only LC to have a badge there. Maybe someone didn't like the badges there on your car and removed them??
Edited by oz772, 01 August 2013 - 09:35 PM.
_threeblindmice_
Posted 01 August 2013 - 09:40 PM
Welcome to the Forum Jason , $$$ yes they do make XU1's out of GTR's , been going on for years . Thanks to the Forum members and the Disc now being wide spread , the practice is not as successful as it used to be ,it was not long ago the information was only held by a few , and some made the most of it .I have an Adelaide GTR also .
_LONA-CK_
Posted 02 August 2013 - 09:05 AM
some xu1 rear quarters had holes as holden would still use what stock they had left over, i have seen this a few times.nos panels fitted as well.
cheers gong
Edited by LONA-CK, 02 August 2013 - 09:06 AM.
Scrivet Counter
Posted 02 August 2013 - 09:17 AM
Hi All,
Doesn't make sense that someone would try and make a replica XU1 out of an original GTR LC82911?
Thanks
JAson
Makes perfect sense Jason.
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Posted 02 August 2013 - 11:48 AM
Doesn't make sense that someone would try and make a replica XU1 out of an original GTR LC82911?
In the 80's people were making dodgy bodgy replicas of XU-1's & SLR 5000'S, left right and centre, It didn't matter what the car started out as.
Put an XU-1 sticker on it and up goes the price, many buyers weren't fussy and didn't care if it wasn't original as long as it looked good. You'd see XU-1 stickers on bobtails along with S badges on the guards and protector strips... even on 4 doors.
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Edited by StephenSLR, 02 August 2013 - 11:52 AM.
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Posted 03 August 2013 - 12:10 AM
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Posted 03 August 2013 - 07:57 AM
I found some old pics of my GTR and it had no badges on the guards for quite a while.
Still has none on the boot.
For a while there it was something people did as a mod - de-badge a car to give it smooth lines.
Yes, debadging and even de-chroming was a fad, it was all about smooth lines for some.
Also the boot could've been replaced after a rear ender.
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_LOR-411_
Posted 05 August 2013 - 02:09 PM
I really have to sound like an old bloke here and say, "Ah, the good old days".
Things were a lot more difficult identifying these cars in the eighties and nineties. Credible information was very limited, held by a very few and referred to as "My Precious".
Walking around in 1989 there were hundreds of GTRs, XU-1s, GTSs and thousands of A9Xs & GTs.
All of them were 'genuine' and verified by a bloke whose mate had almost bought one last year.
I remember Street Machine doing an article on how to spot a muscle car replica and then following that article, another article on how to biuld your own replica.
I have a 7/73 tangerine / chestnut XU-1 which I bought in 1989 as a rolling shell with tags. Everyone (all the experts) said it was a fake because of the interior as it was widely known in 1989 that XU-1s only ever came out with a black interior. Also, I was an idiot for buying a car without a motor.
I remember in 1986 that someone I knew bought a stunning LJ GTR purple / white interior. You should have seen this car; bog stock, mint condition. The whole drive train went to the tip because no-one wanted it and the GTR was then 350 Chevved, this was very typical, and the interior was painted black.
So, yes people did a lot of things to these cars because back then they numerous and unwanted. Now, the information is available, the cars are rare and can be verified, the experts seem to be real (this site is fantastic) and people want to now save these cars.
Keep up the good work.
Just my two cents worth, thanks, Bruce
_threeblindmice_
Posted 05 August 2013 - 04:15 PM
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Posted 05 August 2013 - 07:05 PM
The good old days every car yard had a Monaro ,XU1's and GT's , plenty around then .
God damn!
You just reminded me of when I was looking for my first car (the SL/R). Sussing out Parramatta Rd on weekends, there were plenty around, still way out of my price range.
Plenty of bodgies too.
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_maccyturdrunner_
Posted 07 August 2013 - 03:54 PM
Thanks everyone. I will redrill the holes in the boot and quarters. I'm happy to have an original GTR, I'm sure people would have made replica XU1's when parts were available under trees in back yards but I still don't understand why people would do it to original GTR's??
Love this forum, Nice work guys.
Thanks
JAson
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Posted 07 August 2013 - 05:27 PM
I still don't understand why people would do it to original GTR's??
The times were very different back then and the cars weren't valued as much.
In 20 years Commo enthusiasts will wonder why people threw away stock rims and put on mags and Chev badges. Most of us here don't understand the Chev badge thing regardless.
Some people even today put a rear spoiler on their GTR's.
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Scrivet Counter
Posted 07 August 2013 - 07:09 PM
I'm sure people would have made replica XU1's when parts were available under trees in back yards
We must have had the wrong species of trees in our back yard 
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Posted 12 August 2013 - 08:40 AM
Makes you ask yourself why wreck an original GTR or GTR-XU1 into a drag car. I don't see the point. You lose money by buying it and losing money (if untouched) by not selling it
Edited by gooley, 12 August 2013 - 08:41 AM.
_Skapinad_
Posted 12 August 2013 - 09:12 AM
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Posted 12 August 2013 - 10:35 AM
Times have changed. You could compare it to people who buy SS Commodores today, there will be those who will appreciate it, some may even see it as a future classic, then you have those with money to burn who just want to have the fastest Holden and drive it around like a fashion statement. They’ll butcher it to their taste, godawful as that may be or mod it to whatever flavour of the month mods are doing the rounds.
In general people don’t think 40 years ahead at how much their car will be worth and most definitely don’t plan to keep them even 10 years so if you kitted it out to the current trend you’d get a better sale price. Factory original didn’t sell as quick back then. The same applies to recent model cars, the ‘tastefully’ modded ones get a bit more money, tomorrow’s tastes may vary.
You also hear people say how much they’d wished they’d kept their XYZ but if you compare the current classic car price escalation against house prices, apart from a few exceptions, most that sold their cars to put down a mortgage chose the better investment.
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Edited by StephenSLR, 12 August 2013 - 10:39 AM.
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Posted 13 August 2013 - 12:58 PM
Makes you ask yourself why wreck an original GTR or GTR-XU1 into a drag car. I don't see the point. You lose money by buying it and losing money (if untouched) by not selling it
It's very different today. I've been guilty of this myself. In the early 80s we turned a 307 HK GTS Monaro into a drag car. It was worth less than $2,000 complete & driving, plus it had a bit of rust. Toranas of the day were no different, a GTR was worth about the same. Who would of thought back then that these cars would ever become collectible.
A VN-VS Commodore SS of today is probably a direct comparison, they're not worth much on the used car market in average (unloved) condition
Dr Terry
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Posted 13 August 2013 - 01:03 PM
a GTR was worth about the same. Who would've thought back then that these cars would ever become collectible.
There were those who would prefer to mod a GTR rather than an S. The line of thinking was a GTR is worth more than an S so if we Pro-Street a GTR, it'll be better value and we don't have to restore the whole interior in black for that 'street machine' look.
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Forum Fixture
Posted 13 August 2013 - 09:20 PM
It's very different today. I've been guilty of this myself. In the early 80s we turned a 307 HK GTS Monaro into a drag car. It was worth less than $2,000 complete & driving, plus it had a bit of rust. Toranas of the day were no different, a GTR was worth about the same. Who would of thought back then that these cars would ever become collectible.
A VN-VS Commodore SS of today is probably a direct comparison, they're not worth much on the used car market in average (unloved) condition
Dr Terry
I guess I will never understand as I'm 26 years old so my upbringing thoughts were that Torana's have always been Collectibles. I can't imagine seeing many Torana's, Prems, Kingswoods, and Monaro's on the road with people just heading to work, beach, the shops used as daily cars.
The VN-VS commies are getting there but mostly still under $10,000. I did see one ad of a clean VN SS selling for $15,000 a few months back.... the thing is it had over 300,000km on it, I thought that nobody will buy it.
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Posted 13 August 2013 - 09:41 PM
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that VN's and especially VP's will NEVER be collectable.
I may be wrong but they make a UC look beautiful.
A nice HSV VT or VX however will be very collectible I think cause they looked great brand new and don't look as good cause we're used to them but they will come back into fashion again.
Also, to get slightly back on task, my car has only got the quarter panel badges which have been put back on in the last 10 years or so, it has no other badges anywhere.
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Posted 13 August 2013 - 09:52 PM
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that VN's and especially VP's will NEVER be collectable.
They'll be collectable to those who had an experience with them, their first car, the car dad drove them around in, etc.
My guess is they'll be as collectable as EJ Holdens are today, a classic model but nowhere near as collectable as a limited edition model or Bathurst winner.
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Edited by StephenSLR, 13 August 2013 - 09:53 PM.
_matt black_
Posted 15 August 2013 - 07:15 PM
my lj is 2/72 gtr and has boot badge, grille badge and has 1/4 badges aswell. maybe special order or they were added later.
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