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8/1972 ADR Plated LJ XU-1's but GMH Warranty Disc say Built 9/1972 Why ?


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Posted 08 September 2013 - 03:31 PM

Why is there a few 1972 LJ XU-1's with 8/1972 ADR Tag on them and the Warranty Sheet (Disc) has the build dates in the 9/1972.

Wonder why GMH did this, were they held back for a reason

 

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Posted 08 September 2013 - 04:19 PM

No idea but here's a wild guess. Sept 1 was start of GMH model year so maybe advantageous to have stock listed on the books as current run rather than last?

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Posted 08 September 2013 - 06:33 PM

Yeah maybe



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Posted 08 September 2013 - 06:35 PM

Or were they held back to fit the new update parts to these Aug 72 ADR tagged LJ XU-1 ????



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Posted 08 September 2013 - 06:57 PM

production lag?
pre production models?

Edited by Quagmire, 08 September 2013 - 06:58 PM.


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Posted 09 September 2013 - 03:18 AM

it happend with the lc xu1 as well mate and it was mostly with the adelaide built cars.

the funny thing is all hang-on bit numbers on my car where matching 8-70 but the diff center was 9-70, so its a good chance it was waiting on a part...

 

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 02:12 PM

Thanks Gong



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Posted 09 September 2013 - 02:58 PM

Completion date is when the car is ready for sale. If it has to go to the finishing area for a touch up or if it fails the water test it gets put aside to get fixed and gets a later completion date.. I have hundreds of cars recorded like this, plus it varies greatly between assembly plants as they all fitted the ADR tag at different parts of the assembly line. My HJ Premier is 11/74 but completed 2/75, got delayed waiting for somehing. My red GTS327 is 8/68 but wasn't completed until 9 or 10/68 due to Acacia Ridge missing out on T0509 engines, and it waited for a T0713 engine. If the records existed for HK it'd show much later completion than PSN's around it.

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 05:47 PM

Hi al,45 cars adelaide 9th month built but plated 8th month have 3.55 diff ratio and cars built on 29.8.72 and 30.8.72 50 cars

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 06:48 PM

Great stats there Anthony, thanks



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Posted 09 September 2013 - 06:53 PM

al, and some first registered with QT engines!!

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 08:13 PM

al, and some first registered with QT engines!!

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Posted 10 September 2013 - 03:26 AM

yeh,,, but when going of the vin disc dont look to much into the engine numbers as it was only what was recorded when a car came back for its serves.

thats why its best when you can back up the recorded engine number with the original log books as well.

 

there are cars there that have 253 v8 engines as well.

 

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Posted 10 September 2013 - 11:04 AM

Gong, I have recently found out that is wasn't at firtst service but at dealer delivery when all paperwork was supposed to be returned to the zone office. This is why (apart from errors) some cars turn up wierd like HQ van with a 350, and a HQ LS 350 with a 253 (same dealer, obvious what has happened!). Some dealers were slack too and didn't send stuff back or the computer printout was done before all data was entered.
I wouldn't read too much into compliance V completion dates although it is possible unfinished cars near the end of the GM year were given an ADR plate in 8/72 to avoid any 9/72 ADR's. I think this may have happened with my HJ Prem, if they waited till 1975 to give it an ADR plate they'd have to change the fuel tank, add vent line, add canistet and change the carby.

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Posted 10 September 2013 - 12:39 PM

Byron, I'll disagree.

 

It was the 1,000 mile or 1 month service that triggered the engine number to be recorded in the Warranty Service Records.

The 1,000 mile/1 month service coupon was attached to the Guardian Maintenance warranty certificate.

 

This coupon was to be filled out upon completion of the 1st service by the Servicing Dealer, signed by the vehicle owner and left with the dealer.

The Dealer then sent the coupon to GMH to claim reimbursement for the 1st service, which was free of cost to the vehicle owner.

 

If a vehicle wasn't presented for it's1st service or the Servicing Dealer didn't send in the coupon or didn't record the engine number on the coupon then the engine number wouldn't have been recorded in the Warranty Service Records


Edited by S pack, 10 September 2013 - 12:40 PM.


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Posted 10 September 2013 - 04:19 PM

I used to think that was the case too Dave, but apparantly it isn't. The info went back to the zone office once the dealer received the car, the copy of the broadcast sheet and the invoice. Some dealers were meticulous at record keeping and sent all info back, others were slack @rses. You can see who was and who wasn't by the Owner's Warranty books! They must have reported back again later when sold for the sale date and selling dealer code to appear in the records. 



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Posted 03 October 2013 - 02:59 PM

Maybe it was just that one of the guys in Adelaide that worked for GMH had to wear magnifying lenses as Glasses and just couldn't  make out the  8 from a 9 hehe :dohdoh:

 

Edit=might be an idea r to have them authenticated be GMH and if they say there records show 9th then they were definitely a 9th plated car

Why is there a few 1972 LJ XU-1's with 8/1972 ADR Tag on them and the Warranty Sheet (Disc) has the build dates in the 9/1972.

Wonder why GMH did this, were they held back for a reason

 

AL


Edited by XU1Bitchin, 03 October 2013 - 03:04 PM.


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Posted 03 October 2013 - 04:35 PM

Completion date in theservice/warrabty records has zilch to do with reading anything off the safety compliance plate. It is the date the car was finished and ready for sale.



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Posted 03 October 2013 - 07:40 PM

Completion date in theservice/warrabty records has zilch to do with reading anything off the safety compliance plate. It is the date the car was finished and ready for sale.

As if you don't now  ADR Tag is a build date  and the other date shown on service records is the sales date



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Posted 03 October 2013 - 08:37 PM

Garbage. ADR tag date is a date of compliance. Completion date is in the service/warranty records. Can be many months different, i've seen 4 months in some cases.



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Posted 03 October 2013 - 08:47 PM

Garbage. ADR tag date is a date of compliance. Completion date is in the service/warranty records. Can be many months different, i've seen 4 months in some cases.

correct a Build date of compliance






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