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#1 _brocky2011_

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 07:53 PM

Hey boys and girls,

 

The  red 173 in my Torana is coming out over Christmas for a bit of lovin'.

 

Just wondering if the head bolts are reusable (assuming they are original or nos) or are they torque to yield? I will eventually change them over, but I don't really want to fork out for a set everytime the head comes off during the build up (which will probably be a few times, for who knows what reason).

 

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 08:02 PM

yes Brock,

The Bolts are tougher than the block casting, so the block will wear first.

Just look at the thread and if it looks good than it is. Dave I



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Posted 14 December 2013 - 08:10 PM

Cheers Dave,

 

Honestly, I was probably going to reuse them anyway, doesn't hurt to know though. Couldn't really think of anything worse than getting halfway through this resto and destroying something out of laziness lol.



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Posted 14 December 2013 - 10:37 PM

 gday brock,make sure they are really clean too,if not will affect tightening the head down proper,

 

i usually dab some oil on end as this prevents the bolt from rusting in block

 

 

 

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Posted 15 December 2013 - 09:48 PM

Should use head stud sealer.............not oil.



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Posted 15 December 2013 - 09:57 PM

If the threads are damaged or stretched they should be discarded.

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Posted 15 December 2013 - 10:23 PM

Head stud sealer? More detail please? Is this a 202 specific thing? Does it change the torque reading compared to oil?

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Posted 15 December 2013 - 10:28 PM

The head bolts are not blind, they protrude into the water jackets.
I seal the threads with #3.

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Posted 15 December 2013 - 11:27 PM

Should use head stud sealer.............not oil.

not on threads lol,i just dabbed a bit on end of bolt to stop it rusting.

 

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Posted 16 December 2013 - 12:21 AM

not on threads lol,i just dabbed a bit on end of bolt to stop it rusting.
 
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haha

Who is #3 by?

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Posted 16 December 2013 - 12:39 AM

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Posted 16 December 2013 - 12:42 AM

Who is #3 by?

Holden sell their own, so do many others such as permatec/loctite

I have always used permatec.

FWIW holdens publications refer to their part numbers and whether be it Number 2 or number 3 etc.

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Posted 16 December 2013 - 12:52 AM

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Posted 16 December 2013 - 08:21 AM

I've always only known about GM sealant, always wondered what else was available as it was never advertised

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Posted 16 December 2013 - 09:39 PM

Being Ol' skool, I don't believe in this "mono-torque" black magic.

I've always tensioned the head with oiled head bolts, thread and under the head of the bolt.. Then, warmed the engine up and let it cool overnight.

Then, following the torque sequence of the head bolts, pulled a bolt out, applied thread sealer, then re-torqued to the final torque setting recommended.

Bit of stuffin around but never had an issue and the way it was done back in the days of copper gaskets.

 

 

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Posted 16 December 2013 - 11:50 PM

ive never used sealer,i dont really know that much mechanical wise and havnt stuffed around with a motor for years,is it true say back then  would tension head and after a while  would re tension after so many ks, what happens to the sealer ,would it break its seal,is it in todays world the gaskets only require 1 tension,im talkin years ago ,

 

 

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Posted 17 December 2013 - 12:32 PM

i like Rob's method. Dont want to throw the thread off topic too much, but what method do people use with head studs??



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Posted 17 December 2013 - 04:12 PM

I dip them in 567 then screw them in.

 

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Posted 17 December 2013 - 04:53 PM

I dip them in 567 then screw them in.

 

Cheers. 

you put that on sparingly bomber



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Posted 17 December 2013 - 05:17 PM

Na, drape the shit on then whipe the excess off, where talking about studs here not bolts. 



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Posted 17 December 2013 - 09:05 PM

I just dip the bottom in GM let the excess drip a bit and tension them. 



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Posted 17 December 2013 - 11:18 PM

Dip the bolt in GM sealing compound, then tension it, I don't re-tension. Haven't had any trouble so far.






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