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Internal and surface rust

Started by _73gtr_ , Mar 20 2014 10:49 AM

internal rust surface rust rust convertor and primer

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#1 _73gtr_

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Posted 20 March 2014 - 10:49 AM

Hi All,

Just after a little bit of advice in regards to some rust I'm dealing with. Found some rust that is ether hidden from site (under cover a scuff panel), internal (inside of guards at the bottom or light surface rust on the internal of the panels.

So far for the worser parts I'm just scraping the old tar and any loose flakes away then applying a 'rust convertor and primer' (using K&H but similar to the 3M and HiChem versions). The product says no need to sand and able to apply primer and topcoat on top.

Just I'm not sure what to apply next? I was thinking something along the lines of just a enamel wattyl kill rust? I'm not 100% fussed on what it looks like just want it protected in case water get in contact with it again, etc? Or should I be looking at something more along the lines of primer and topcoat process?

Also for the surface rust after light sanding should I also apply the rust convert/primer or skip it and straight to something else like the kill rust?

After all of this I plan on fish oiling/cavity waxing the car and seams, Most of what I'm doing is just trying to protect not repair.

Thanks,

Devon

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#2 _Bomber Watson_

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Posted 20 March 2014 - 10:56 AM

Budget, ability, equiptmenr?

Por-15 or kbs is probably the go. Use there rust converter and the like though.

Googling kbs will be a good start for you.

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#3 _73gtr_

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Posted 20 March 2014 - 11:08 AM

Budget, ability, equiptmenr?

Por-15 or kbs is probably the go. Use there rust converter and the like though.

Googling kbs will be a good start for you.

Budget dosen't matter.

Ability can spray paint, etc.
Equipment have access or can buy.

Want to keep away from anyway spray gun as the car is painted and complete, etc. Just want to fix the stuff that in internally to hopefully give it the best chances of lasting long. So more towards brush on or spray packs.

Arr I've heard of POR-15/KBS this but was thought it was more suited to where a tough coating/etc was required but I guess it makes sense here.....

If I've already started with the convertor and primer so any advice on what to overcoat it with? Or is POR that good I should redo what I have done.....?

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#4 _Bomber Watson_

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Posted 20 March 2014 - 11:14 AM

What primer have you started using?

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#5 _73gtr_

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Posted 20 March 2014 - 11:21 AM

What primer have you started using?

The product I'm using is 'Rust Convertor and Primer' in one, it's K&H branded but looks other brands have something similar such as the 3M and HiChem version ( .pdf here: http://www.hichem.co...stConverter.pdf).

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#6 _73gtr_

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Posted 20 March 2014 - 11:46 AM

If you think it's worth while scraping what I've done looks like might be worth while going straight to the KBS (http://www.kbs-coati...ssis-coater-kit)? Any tips on what I should do about the section I have already 'converted and primed'?

Or it almost looks like I use my current 'Rust convert and primer' and paint the rust seal on top.....

Edited by 73gtr, 20 March 2014 - 11:59 AM.

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#7 _Bomber Watson_

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Posted 20 March 2014 - 01:39 PM

Cant really comment as ive never used anything like that.

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#8 _73gtr_

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Posted 20 March 2014 - 02:02 PM

Cant really comment as ive never used anything like that.

Hrmm I might see how I go with just putting a coat of killrust over the top of the 'rust convertor primer' as most places are easy to access and redone again if I have to.

Unless anyone else has some advice I think thats about it really?

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#9 r2160

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Posted 20 March 2014 - 07:26 PM

I have used the KBS product. You use the chemical cleaner first, let that dry and then treat with their anti rust stuff. I have found that bare metal will keep for over 2 months with out rust forming just by doing this process. You then use the gloss black undercoat. I then used the satin final coat over that.

I have found it works well.

You can apply it with a brush as well, it "flow coats" to some extent, not perfect, but better than paint normally goes on with a brush.

cheers

Glenn

Edited by r2160, 20 March 2014 - 07:29 PM.