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#1 knoath

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Posted 11 July 2006 - 11:44 AM

G'day all.
After looking around for wheels for the UC, I'm a bit disapointed with the range available for Torana Stud Pattern, 14's mostly, 15's....pfft! :rolleyes: :furious:
I would really prefer 15's or 16's, so I'm now looking at Commodore pattern as we all know there's a thousand choices there. :D
I'm thinking of putting Commodore brakes on the UC, can anyone tell me what's involved.
Does the Small Salisbury in the UC accept early Commodore axles?
Is there a lot of stuffing around with handbrake set ups etc?
I take it the front would be a simple job?
Am I able to run standard master cylinder etc?

Any advice welcomed.
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Posted 11 July 2006 - 12:12 PM

Im very interested to hear about what is involved as well, as i would like to do a similar conversion on my Gf's UC so she can get some nice wheels on it, the UC's really do need some 16's or something to set them off!

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Posted 11 July 2006 - 12:19 PM

is there a HQ disk avliable that runs the commodore BFU.

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Posted 11 July 2006 - 06:38 PM

The pattern isn't the only thing
Its the offset of the rim thats of concern too
If your not excited about actually upgrading the brakes at all you could just buy some DBA010 discs (std torana) in undrilled and have them drilled to the right pattern
If your going to upgrade the brakes you need to try a different tack. No commodore brakes will bolt straight to your existing stub

So this leaves you with many options but 2 are tried and true

1. Put HQ stubs on it. Then HQ-WB brakes (mounted rearward of stub). Then A9X steering arms. May need new springs as the H series stubs will lower the car a couple of inches.

2. $12-1300 for a Hoppers Stoppers bolt on kit (single your going 15" or more). Bolts to your existing stub axle. They do 2 versions. STD track. And +8mm track. If using Commy wheels the +8 would suit better as it compensates alittle for the Commodore wheel offset.

Can't help you on the diff ....... but its likely that the axles may interchange but I don't know for sure.

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Posted 11 July 2006 - 08:45 PM

The pattern isn't the only thing
Its the offset of the rim thats of concern too

Why's that dattoman?

If your not excited about actually upgrading the brakes at all you could just buy some DBA010 discs (std torana) in undrilled and have them drilled to the right pattern

This is OK for the front.... what would i do for the rear?

Put HQ stubs on it. Then HQ-WB brakes (mounted rearward of stub).

By this you mean the calipers?

If using Commy wheels the +8 would suit better as it compensates alittle for the Commodore wheel offset.

Is this cos the Commy offset doesn't give a dish?

Thanks Dattoman, I was hoping you'd see this thread and get involved!

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Posted 11 July 2006 - 09:01 PM

1. Rim offset pulls the wheels in towards the suspension
Torana are about +6mm and Commy is +43mm. So the inner edge of the wheel/tyres goes in about 35mm and gets close to suspensions parts

2. Find axles in commy pattern ?....... I'm not a diff guru so I don't know if this is easy or not.

3. Yes..... mount the calipers rearward of the stub..... i.e stubs on opposite sides of car to normal. Then you'll clear the steering tierods

4. Yes...... commy has no dish....... and eveyone knows dish is good.

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Posted 11 July 2006 - 09:16 PM

Yes mate, dish is great!
This is why I was looking at Torry wheels....but Hotwires, slotters and globes are about the go atm.

Was thinking about Walkinshaws in 16x7.... gotta fill those arches!
Thanks dattoman, will heed your advice one way or another.

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Posted 11 July 2006 - 09:59 PM

you can use 6 cylinder commodore salisbury axles, although you may need to get them shortened about 5mm. Only way to find out is get some and slide them in. You'll then just run commodore rear brakes, pretty simple conversion once you have commie stud pattern, just swap the backing plates from left to right so the caliper is on the opposite side of the diff to the shock absorber. Only problem is your handbrake, there is a shop in perth call flexidrive agencies that can modify the end of your handbrake cable to suit commodore handbrake mechanism, so Im sure there will be shops that deal with flexible drives overeast too.




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