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Posted 03 May 2014 - 01:48 PM

As the heading suggests I'm looking at which way to go here,i have an alarm and central locking system sitting on the shelf ready to install in the LJ,but after thinking of how many of these bloody things I have taken out of customers cars coz its shit it self or the remotes have died or disappeared,even had a case of having to break into the car to open it coz the alarm was going off and couldn't open the doors.
My other alternative is to make up my own immobilizer that will kill spark,starting and fuel,ive got it all nutted out no worries and it will arm itself every time I turn off the ign,might fit a key switch to bypass that bit yet could be a pain in the bum when tuning it.i'm thinking that if they can figure out why it wont crank,or got any ignition and then after 100 meters running out of fuel they will simply thing faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaark this is to hard,so with out saying me how you have done it, what have you done to secure your car ?

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Posted 03 May 2014 - 02:28 PM

Hahaha like we are all going to spell out how we secure our car on an open forum...



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Posted 03 May 2014 - 02:48 PM

If I'm concerned about where I've parked my car I take out the rotor button. But I'm impoverished and can't afford a proper immobiliser.



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Posted 03 May 2014 - 04:15 PM

what I meant was immobilize it or fit the alarm,like I did say "without saying how you did it"

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Posted 03 May 2014 - 05:05 PM

Hi Phillip,

We can never have enough protection, but I like your idea to make your own, as for one, you know how it works, and for two, it would be made with quality parts. Dave I

 

 

 

I always imagined having a pin at the back of the Gear shifter, that goes through the tail-shaft uni,

and locates a pin hole on the other side, and then you lock it in the Cab behind the shifter with a Padlock.



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Posted 03 May 2014 - 05:23 PM

The immobilizer sounds like a good idea.



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Posted 03 May 2014 - 05:55 PM

Remember years ago there was a valve with a keyswitch that could be fitted in the brake lines.

Was a one way valve.

So you could either lock the brakes yourself or wait until the thief used the brakes the first time.



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Posted 03 May 2014 - 07:05 PM

^^Even better if Automatic^^ as usually it's the first pedal pressed after ignition, Make sure you have good slave seals for this as I would imagine some overdue stressing would occur & you don't need the things blowing out whilst going for a cruise...



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Posted 03 May 2014 - 07:20 PM

Or a solenoid valve on the fuel system. No fuel = no go

 

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Posted 03 May 2014 - 07:27 PM

I always look at the extremes of a Thief, like they can use a Tow Truck, and now Tilt Trays. Dave I



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Posted 03 May 2014 - 07:55 PM

At the end of the day we can only go so far to protect our cars,if they are really serious they will try to steal it by driving it away and if that don't work they will get it on a tilt tray at a later date,best protection is lock it in the shed when ya at home,the other thought I had was a wheel clamp for when ya away from home

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Posted 03 May 2014 - 07:59 PM

Have you considered one of these?

 

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Posted 03 May 2014 - 08:00 PM

And apparently ya not allowed to shoot any scumbag who is stealing ya car these days

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Posted 03 May 2014 - 08:02 PM

w39o6eSI06Y ....? whats this went in evilbay got nothing

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Posted 03 May 2014 - 08:10 PM

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Posted 03 May 2014 - 08:42 PM

Oh Rodomo you are such a tease lol

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Posted 03 May 2014 - 09:31 PM

OHHH How I wish there was a shop selling the Magna Volt, Reminds me of when we were kids our house kept getting broken into and The Ole Man was hell bent on hooking 240 up to front door knob... Thankfully Mum was the deciding factor, So we are still alive to tell about it......


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Posted 03 May 2014 - 10:14 PM

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I like this one


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Posted 03 May 2014 - 11:34 PM

Alarm's only any use if you're around to hear it.



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Posted 04 May 2014 - 07:09 AM

I have always had both.

I have had 2 cars attempted to be taken but were left

with the door just ajar as the alarm for one must have sent them running.

 

One was my LX in about 1989 in camden

The other was a ford Ute i owned and worked out of at Mt Druitt Tafe car park.

 

So in my experience the alarms definitely worked.

If they had been able to disable the alarm hopefully the immobiliser would have stopped them getting the whole car.

 

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Posted 04 May 2014 - 10:45 AM

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Thanks Rodomo - my embed didn't work and I was having connection issues, couldn't make it work.



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Posted 04 May 2014 - 11:00 AM

Years and years ago there was a kit alarm that you could get from Dick Smith.

It worked pretty well but when tweaked it was excellent.

It only worked on power draw and was very  sensitive.

Sometimes a truck going past would set it off.

The movement of the car caused the electrolyte in the battery to move which triggered it.

But that bit was able to be overcome.

 

Back in those days there werent many alarms on the market.

Each one tended to have a specific flashing light.

So the thieves could work out what brand it was and how to overcome it quite easily.

 

Helped a mate design and install a very customised and upgraded version of the Dock Smith Kit.

It was an ugly bit of componentry but worked well.

 

There were no remotes those days and this alarm was designed as instantaneous so external switch was required.

 

Basically with the modifications made there was a delay of about 5 seconds after the alarm activated before it made noise.

In those 5 seconds however, things were happening.

Once the doors were all closed, solenoids activated the door locks and kept them locked. With thief inside.

An immobiliser cut power to both starter and coil.

Then no less than 6 piezo screamers activated inside the car as well as an external siren and flashing lights.

 

So the end result was any thief who tried his luck would be kept locked in the car and in pain with the noise being generated.



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Posted 04 May 2014 - 11:01 AM

another way of hiding things, is disguise,

In the Movie, 'The day of the Jackal', he hid his special gun in a fake exhaust pipe, which was to look original, when crossing the border. Dave I

 

so put an alarm in a heater box and the wiring in fake fuel lines or something



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Posted 04 May 2014 - 11:04 AM

Ha Ha Rob, that is one very well designed Alarm



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Posted 04 May 2014 - 12:08 PM

It worked well actually.

Whether or not it is legal is another issue.

As well as what happens to the thief when released from the car.






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