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Buying a hydraulic press

Started by _judgelj_ , Aug 19 2014 05:47 PM

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#1 _judgelj_

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Posted 19 August 2014 - 05:47 PM

G'day,

Looking to buy a press for home and wondering if anyone had any insight/experience to share. Unfortunately it will have to be Chinese, and will be to press bushed and bearings. Height is a big issue and ive found that although sufficient, the 12t units are super small.

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#2 76lxhatch

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Posted 19 August 2014 - 08:52 PM

That's what I've got, its not particularly straight but it was cheap and it always does the job

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#3 _judgelj_

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Posted 19 August 2014 - 10:04 PM

is that the 12t? Is it sufficient to do bearings and bushes? Would it ever struggle?

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Posted 19 August 2014 - 10:34 PM

Yes 12T, yes fine for bushes and ball joints etc. I've broken a couple of the inch thick cast plates with it doing silly things and the frame has never shown any issues, its plenty strong enough for pretty much anything you can fit in it.

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#5 _judgelj_

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 11:07 AM

YEah but those cast plates are dangerous. Wouldnt want one exploding on me!

Im leaning towards 20t for sheer size. The 12t i was looking at would require someone to be on their knees to operate it.

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 02:21 PM

Weird, mine is floor standing. Maybe its meant to be placed on a bench...?

edit: if you have the space and the budget I agree that the physical size of a bigger one definitely would be an advantage (rating probably irrelevant)

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#7 _SableMet7/73_

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 03:03 PM

Measure the longest thing you'll press, in my case HQ axles.
go check a press by placing the bed on its lowest rung & measure.
I bought the 20T from Hare & Forbes $250, others had it at $349.
Didnt need 20T but least my stuff fits.

Cant tell you how many places I've worked for with useless presses,
munted gear pullers, no bearing separaters & always forget to
refill the oxy gas..frustrating!

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 04:40 PM

Hello Jacob,

as Jono said,

one to use for pressing your Torana axle bearings,

now I have used this one, which does some big jobs,

like changing bearings of a big electric motor armature ( 45mm I.D. bearings ) etc,

is a little flimsy to use, and takes a bit to square up the job you are pressing,

but this is also where your Lathe will come in handy to machine up the pressing jigs etc:-

http://www.machines4...20-Tonne/14517/

When you make your jig pressing pieces, keep them on a shelf next to the press,

so every time you use the press, there may be the right piece to use for a quick job.

As the tooling builds up, your Press Station will be a great Tool.

This press is a 20 Ton at $300

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 05:28 PM

hare and forbes sell good stuff.

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#10 _judgelj_

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Posted 21 August 2014 - 10:50 AM

Theres this which is up dandenong way for all you victorians. At $229 its not bad, i assume it's all the same. The one i was looking at in total tools is around $300 but it's TTI branded. In my opinion it's the same as every other Chinese one, with a branded sticker.
http://alwaysdirect....shop-press.html

The 12t i looked at was incredibly small, and if you go to supercrap they was nearly $300 for 6/12t bench presses. For me the biggest thing ill do is my hilux axle bearings. Ill have to measure up the length of axle plus the drum assembly and see if it fits. But i suppose even it doesnt fit ill have no other choice anyway.

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Posted 21 August 2014 - 12:12 PM

Yeah Jacob,

Just get the Floor standing one.

As for the online one, you will need to add postage.

For me the biggest thing ill do is my hilux axle bearings.

Cost of Fuel in Victoria is probably the same to drive there yourself hey

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#12 _judgelj_

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Posted 21 August 2014 - 12:43 PM

I can pick it up from them so don't have to add postage. But its also a Cunning Stunt of a drive.

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#13 76lxhatch

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Posted 21 August 2014 - 04:28 PM

If I recall correctly mine was NZ$170 (a few years ago now though I guess) and is almost identical to the photo above.

Definitely worth getting something that is floor standing.

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#14 _SableMet7/73_

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Posted 21 August 2014 - 04:54 PM

Dunno how close Hilux axles are to Triton but know from experience
it dont fit in the 11T.
I'd recommend a hefty bearing separater too for 4WD stuff, Jacob.
Also found an oxy was required on most 4WD jobs.
Cant find a diameter size on mine but its 33mm thick, my press is pretty much
as Dave's pic & have no drama with HQ/LJ axles, gearbox & my bike stuff.
When measuring, dont forget to allow for the thickness of the separater plus
the depth required to release the collar/bearing from the shoulder.
With the peg on the lowest rung, mine has 932mm to the bed (minus those cast plates)

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#15 _SableMet7/73_

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Posted 21 August 2014 - 08:03 PM

Just realised yours is axle with brake backing plate/hub assembly,
sorry grey matter is a bit foggy.

Can you get a bearing separater in under the bearing/collar?
Have you got a pic?

Havnt done a Hilux before & the Triton I was thinking of is like our
Holden type setups, as it was 08 on.
If its like the earlier Triton/Paj set-up there was no way
to get under the bearing & had to be oxy'd off. Had to heat the crap out
of the bearing/collar then WITH heat proof gloves/rags grab the backing
plate & slam the splined end verticaly down onto a decent wooden block on
the floor, re-heat & slam till released. There might of been a specific Mitsi
puller for the job, but never saw 1.
But you'll still need the right sized press to install the new 1.

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#16 _judgelj_

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Posted 21 August 2014 - 08:58 PM

Yeah that's right jono. Grind off the retaining ring and slam the shit out of it onto hard wood. Destroying hands at the same time. I've done two and would you believe I don't remember much from either. Can't remember heating them but I'm pretty sure I busted the cage one one. The bearing sits inside a recessed hole so no chance getting under it. There's a bloke on YouTube that made a jig which essentially mimics an axle housing and adopts the same theory as smashing it on hardwood, except using the press.

My uncle reinstalled my bearing in his press, which is very big. For me I'd like to cover all bases just in case.

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#17 _SableMet7/73_

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Posted 22 August 2014 - 05:15 AM

Oxy was just a bit kinder to my ears & that was the way they did them when shown how

plus some blokes just like FIRE. Yep burning grease, rubber & red hot ball bearings

rolling around the place. Its also 1 job I dont miss since getting off the tools, used to give

my pinned scaphoid heaps.

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#18 _judgelj_

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Posted 22 August 2014 - 11:33 AM

Yeah, it is a prick. I have an oxy at home as well, dont know why i didnt use it. The funny thing is the amount of people saying yeah mate just turn it upside down and smash it on hardwood, it will come off easy. A big LOL to that.

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Posted 23 August 2014 - 03:02 AM

I had a Job where I had to smash bearings off on a Rail Line,

was very dangerous, having hardened pieces flying around,

and should of had a cover on them.

A welder and a press is much better,

and good Luck with your purchases Jacob.

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#20 _hutch_

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Posted 23 August 2014 - 07:46 AM

I built one to use at work for fitting solid tyres on forklift rims,it has a bore of 200 mm and a stroke of 600 mm from memory, works out at around 200 tons squeeze at full pressure but I fitted a pressure relief valve to cut it back to around 50 tons,trying to make it apprentice resistent

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#21 _judgelj_

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Posted 23 August 2014 - 11:25 PM

Wow. With that pressure you could probably compress carbon into diamonds!

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Posted 23 August 2014 - 11:34 PM

compress carbon into diamond

Edited by GASPOWER, 23 August 2014 - 11:38 PM.

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#23 _Macca97_

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Posted 03 September 2014 - 12:25 PM

when it comes to a press, bigger is ALWAYS BETTER, we've been living with a little 20tonner one, but found time to upgrade to a bigger one, so we built a nice big one, with a ram with 12inch stroke 3 1/2 inch bore, and an old presure washer has a hydraulic pump, all in a custom frame, should be capable of 60-70tonne