I want to spray the tops of the inner guards black as they are body colour yellow to match the replica more. I have the compressor and the spray can /nozzles. What are the basics I need to look for?. I was going to get some paint mixed and practise on some old panels I have. Bearing in mind it is a race car and not a concourse situation.
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Posted 19 July 2006 - 06:19 PM
What type of paint? Acrylic? If so, 1.8-2.0mm nozzle. You can never have enough thinners. Start with about 1 part paint to 1.5 parts thinners. More thinners as you get toward the end to settle the paint down. Acrylic paint, acrylic thinners. If there's heaps of paint in the air, you got too much air pressure.
Is that basic enough? Gregory's do a good book complete with troubleshooting guide, available at Supercheap for around $20. It's pretty good.
Edit: Forgot, especially with black. The one part you don't mask is where the paint ends up, even if it's miles from where you are painting. Cover up as much as possible where you don't want the paint. Sheets/blankets are good.
Is that basic enough? Gregory's do a good book complete with troubleshooting guide, available at Supercheap for around $20. It's pretty good.
Edit: Forgot, especially with black. The one part you don't mask is where the paint ends up, even if it's miles from where you are painting. Cover up as much as possible where you don't want the paint. Sheets/blankets are good.
Edited by Yella SLuR, 19 July 2006 - 06:21 PM.
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Posted 19 July 2006 - 06:29 PM
Maybe Earth from frame too, to stop dust collecting with stactic and make sure
area is clean!
Remember spray painting is 95% Prep and 5% painting.
area is clean!
Remember spray painting is 95% Prep and 5% painting.
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Posted 19 July 2006 - 06:56 PM
Acrylic is fine...The book sounds the go too...I will cover everything and make sure it is in an airless period...what pressure should the gun be at? As you can see it isnt a big area so I can take my time.
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Posted 19 July 2006 - 07:11 PM
I run 40 psi one the regulated line with a gravity feed gun, and then I turn it down a bit more at the gun, it's a spensive gun, but results are good. Suction type will need more pressure.
For your base coats, add thinners till it still dribbles off the mixing stick at a constant rate, just before it falls off in drops. After you got a good base, thinners are your friend.
Be careful with plastics, and home handy person enamel patches. If it fries up, take it all off. Plastic needs an plastic primer, or it will eat, eat, eat.
Never used airless guns so can't advise that way.
Oh, don't forget to put a water trap in the line.
Shiny surfaces are good, that's why I've invested so much time and effort in making them.
For your base coats, add thinners till it still dribbles off the mixing stick at a constant rate, just before it falls off in drops. After you got a good base, thinners are your friend.
Be careful with plastics, and home handy person enamel patches. If it fries up, take it all off. Plastic needs an plastic primer, or it will eat, eat, eat.
Never used airless guns so can't advise that way.
Oh, don't forget to put a water trap in the line.
Shiny surfaces are good, that's why I've invested so much time and effort in making them.
Edited by Yella SLuR, 19 July 2006 - 07:12 PM.
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Posted 19 July 2006 - 07:16 PM
I'd set the pressure gauge on the air compressor at about 35 to 40lbs for a low pressure gun (and acrylic is the go for your engine bay) It's cheaper and easy to use. Just decide on the finish you want, gloss, flat or gmh black would look good. Practice on an old panel if you can or even a sheet of cardboard. Hold the gun about 12 to 15 inches from the panel and spray from side to side.
You will also have two adjusting knobs on your spray gun. One is for adjusting the pressure to the gun and one is for adjusting the width of the spray paint. It's not really that hard, just abit of practice. The other option is just to buy a couple of cans of spray paint.
Last bit of advice, the paint will stick better in warm weather, so maybe park the torana in the sun and paint it outside. Avoid wet days for painting, as there is too much humidity, regards Mick.
You will also have two adjusting knobs on your spray gun. One is for adjusting the pressure to the gun and one is for adjusting the width of the spray paint. It's not really that hard, just abit of practice. The other option is just to buy a couple of cans of spray paint.
Last bit of advice, the paint will stick better in warm weather, so maybe park the torana in the sun and paint it outside. Avoid wet days for painting, as there is too much humidity, regards Mick.
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Posted 19 July 2006 - 07:34 PM
^ you obviously haven't had a flat black engine bay before.
Most guns have fan pattern and amount of paint adjustments, you need the more expensive guns for air pressure adjustment, i.e. 3 controls.
If you are going to resort to spray cans, make sure it says acrylic on the label, if not, more than likely it is enamel ---> yuk, yuk, yuk, it's gonna cause you problems down the line.
Most guns have fan pattern and amount of paint adjustments, you need the more expensive guns for air pressure adjustment, i.e. 3 controls.
If you are going to resort to spray cans, make sure it says acrylic on the label, if not, more than likely it is enamel ---> yuk, yuk, yuk, it's gonna cause you problems down the line.
Edited by Yella SLuR, 19 July 2006 - 07:36 PM.
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Posted 19 July 2006 - 07:39 PM
I thought about the spray cans but it is usually thin as crap and scratches off. Or I am buying the wrong spray cans...That would be easier if I could...but I guess it just needs more coats ..
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Posted 19 July 2006 - 07:41 PM
Once you've done it with a gun you won't go back. Very spensive way to paint with spray cans, and no control.
Forgot to say, always heaps easier to learn painting a whole car than just bits and pieces. More time to adjust your technique and gun settings.
I've had a few real disasters in my time, but I'm all the better for it.
Forgot to say, always heaps easier to learn painting a whole car than just bits and pieces. More time to adjust your technique and gun settings.
I've had a few real disasters in my time, but I'm all the better for it.
Edited by Yella SLuR, 19 July 2006 - 07:43 PM.
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Posted 19 July 2006 - 07:54 PM
Flat black engine bay in EK ute
GMH black engine bay in GTR
Gloss black engine bay in SS
I originally painted my SS engine bay in flat black but didn't like it and changed it to gloss black. It just depends on what type of finish you prefer. Have fun.
GMH black engine bay in GTR
Gloss black engine bay in SS
I originally painted my SS engine bay in flat black but didn't like it and changed it to gloss black. It just depends on what type of finish you prefer. Have fun.
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Posted 19 July 2006 - 07:57 PM
Yeah, flat black looks good off the gun, but if your going to car show's, or have your bonnet open, always looks dirty. That's why I'm not a fan of it. The dirt sticks to it everywhere. I'll have to add that to the things I don't like on the LH list along with the square headlights......What were they thinking?
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Posted 19 July 2006 - 08:05 PM
I agree with Yella that gloss black certainly looks better than flat black. Would suggest you match the finish of your bonnet(which I guess is gloss) and continue that to the inside guards. Would also paint the top of the radiator support panel black and paint the bonnet hinges silver to give it a highlight. Then she'll be even more beautiful! 
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Posted 19 July 2006 - 08:09 PM
^ agree wholeheartedly. Dudes here have been getting their hinges zinc plated (they were originally done this way). Seems to look the goods. A couple of levels of shininess from chrome.
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Posted 20 July 2006 - 05:16 PM
Had a win today..The guy that is panel beating my SV8 is a petrol head and made me up 4 pressure cans....Satin Black..gave me lots of tips and said just go slow and prep right..He said it is easier than trying to learn a gun for such a small area. All for nothing! Also said if I stuff it up bring it in and the boys will clean it up. Then he said..Dont worry about the Chev Grill on Ebay..I will charge the insurance company for a Holden grill and get you your Chev grill from S.A.!! The guy is a champ!! 
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Posted 22 July 2006 - 12:40 PM
How did I do? Did about 3 coats...letting it harden b4 putting everything back.
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Posted 22 July 2006 - 04:58 PM
One good thing i found out was just before painting clean down with presol/wax grease remover and finally give it a good wipe over with a tac rag.
Nothing worse than laying down a beaut paint finish only to see fluff in it!!
Nothing worse than laying down a beaut paint finish only to see fluff in it!!
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Posted 22 July 2006 - 05:12 PM
Wiped it down with thinners and cleaned it all off...Came up a treat!
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