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Thinking of upgrading UC Torana to a V8 need advice.


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#1 _DarkParagon_

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Posted 26 June 2015 - 05:15 PM

hey guys

 

I recently bought a 1979 UC Torana which i will be restoring, once it is complete i am wanting to use to to go on car cruises with, the car came with a 202 engine in it but i am looking to upgrade it to a 308 for obvious reasons.

 

my only problem is that after speaking to a car enthusiast he said converting it will be a lot of work, and getting the car to be road legal will be a pain as the UC only came out as 4 and 6 not v8. 

 

Is what he said true? i know that they didnt come out as a v8 but i didnt think getting it road worthy would be a problem. also how hard would it be to upgrade it to a 308/ what process will i have to go through?

 

thanks in advance guys, waiting anxiously to see what you guys think.



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Posted 27 June 2015 - 08:48 AM

Best be speaking with your Motor register me thinks, save all the neigh sayers and and half informed wits.



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Posted 27 June 2015 - 11:08 AM

Varies state to state.

As above contact whoever will be doing the road worthy/pink slip/whatever. May require engineering but will be straight forward.

Fitting is a bolt in operation.

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Posted 27 June 2015 - 12:13 PM

In WA the LH/LX/UC are treated as the same car. In WA fitting a 308 with a factory V8 LH/LX/UC gearbox and factory V8 LH/LX/UC diff does not require engineer to sign off but does require inspection by WA rego. I expect it is the same in all states but as others have said get confirmation from SA rego.

 

If you want an engine/gearbox/diff or brakes that were not a factory option on the LH/LX/UC then they will need to be inspected and signed off by an engineer before inspection by rego. The modifications with be subject to SA modification rules which is probably the NCOP which sets modification standards and limits. (engine size, track, ride height, suspension systems, etc) 

 

Engineering is no big deal it is just another expense. You should be able to get an engine, gearbox, diff and brakes signed off by an engineer for less than $1000.


Edited by ls2lxhatch, 27 June 2015 - 12:16 PM.


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Posted 27 June 2015 - 07:15 PM

SA & NSW are the only two states that have not yet adopted the National Code Of Practice (NCOP) so for details specific to SA see here:

 

http://www.sa.gov.au...d-modifications

 

But their website says you don't need an engineer's certificate if

 

...the engine in your vehicle has been changed with no modification and is an available option or standard specification for your vehicle make, model and year...

 

Therefore, since a 308 was not an available option for a 1979 UC Torana I would assume you need to talk to an engineer.



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Posted 27 June 2015 - 08:46 PM

It sort of gets a bit complicated when it comes to "because this series/model" did not have OEM "options" of such and such ? ...but regarding the LH - UC series,

 

it would make more sense that because the basic OEM  construction of the basic layout of the UC is not that much different than the previous models that did house V8's, that as long as the V8 conversion to a UC was accompanied by the usual minor items (booster,front springs etc.basic stuff blah blah) that the NCOP "engineers" might need to actually get a handle on what these cars were based upon rather than rely on a "sorry mate,it never had it from factory,and because of that we gonna charge you heaps because of "our rules" for a cert."?

 



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Posted 27 June 2015 - 09:06 PM

In this particular case the S.A. Govt website I looked at says "make, model and year", this isn't my opinion, interpretation nor "handle", it is written in black & white, which you can read yourself if you follow the link I provided above.

 

There was no V8 Torana, Sunbird or otherwise, available in 1979

 

There was no 6 cylinder Torana, Sunbird or otherwise, available in 1980

 

NCOP does not apply in South Australia.



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Posted 28 June 2015 - 08:12 AM

Same basic Lincoln as mine that I bought in the 90's.



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Posted 28 June 2015 - 10:45 AM

Been done many times thoughhere in SA, emissions compliance was once the biggest issue followed by engine size.

 

Ring and ask but you may have to be persistent as it is a government department full of people who can not answer your question knowingly. That's where a consultant engineer will be a smoother path, they are more likely to know the latest requirements.

 

Go for it!






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