gday all im new at the whole torana and muscle car scene im into newish commodores. i have a vs with an ecotec and just wondering how the old torana engines will stand up to this stock v6. any replies will be muchly appreciated
Torana vs new commdore
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, Jul 27 2006 09:32 PM
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Posted 27 July 2006 - 09:43 PM
welcom newby?
we have toranas here from about 2 litres to about 8 litres.
compared to 3.8 litres, well its a broard question bit you do the math.
we have toranas here from about 2 litres to about 8 litres.
compared to 3.8 litres, well its a broard question bit you do the math.
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Posted 27 July 2006 - 09:49 PM
A 186/202 cubic inch strait six with a bit of work (head, nice pistons, cam, ignition, carbie for example) that is tuned nicely can outperform a 3800 Buick V6 in a Commodore.
If that same V6 was put into another Torana, it would probably outperform the Torana with the warm 186/202.
That's mainly due to the weight differences... give you some idea?
If that same V6 was put into another Torana, it would probably outperform the Torana with the warm 186/202.
That's mainly due to the weight differences... give you some idea?
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Posted 27 July 2006 - 10:19 PM
Heath's right, but Newby mentioned he had a VS, which isnt the Buick V6, it's the Ecotec, which would perform slightly better than the boat ancher buick...
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Posted 28 July 2006 - 11:21 AM
On the dyno, a mates low km VS ecotec made 100rwkW, my 179 on the dyno made 101.3rwkW...
But thats not to say the ecotec's are not a quick motor. With a few breathing mods, the ecotec's are a powerful motor.
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But thats not to say the ecotec's are not a quick motor. With a few breathing mods, the ecotec's are a powerful motor.
Cheers
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Posted 29 July 2006 - 10:21 PM
Keith what breathing mods do you mean?
Induction??
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Induction??
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Posted 29 July 2006 - 10:29 PM
^^^ I think he would mean like pods, extractors etc etc.
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Posted 29 July 2006 - 10:47 PM
well, what times do a stock VS run down the qtr? Like 17's? 16's?
My 253 ran a 15 with a fuel surge issue....
Its very hard to compare these two cars.... There is so much variation, give us something to go on and we will give you an answer
My 253 ran a 15 with a fuel surge issue....
Its very hard to compare these two cars.... There is so much variation, give us something to go on and we will give you an answer
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Posted 29 July 2006 - 11:01 PM
Spend a few dollars on the old 6 and they are just as quick or quicker than the v6 commy's, I've spent a bit more on my 202 and it ran a 13.5 down the 1/4 which is probably quicker than most SS Commodores.
Can do anything with $$$, How far do you want to go?
As Heath said with a few cheap mods these motor can go quite well and in a Light Car make for great fun, especially up against P platers with V6 Commodores, lol.
Can do anything with $$$, How far do you want to go?
As Heath said with a few cheap mods these motor can go quite well and in a Light Car make for great fun, especially up against P platers with V6 Commodores, lol.
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Posted 30 July 2006 - 11:40 PM
lol, hey mate, watch it, im a P plater lol... but no commodore! i got a Thunder dome race 202 with redline manifold, pacemaker extractors and 350 holley.
Putting a turbo in aswelll if all goes to plans so i should be quite fun.
Putting a turbo in aswelll if all goes to plans so i should be quite fun.
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Posted 31 July 2006 - 10:51 AM
How long is a piece of string?i have a vs with an ecotec and just wondering how the old torana engines will stand up to this stock v6. any replies will be muchly appreciated
Line up against your old HB Torana, even with Peter Brock driving and you would probably beat him in reverse.
Line up against an 73 XU-1 and it would be a totaly different story.
You could always put the VS motor in a LC/J and then it would fly.
Steve
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Posted 31 July 2006 - 07:47 PM
My old torana motor pisses all over my 300kw gts coupe so I wouldnt imagine an ecotec commodore having much chance.
I guess it depends on whos torana you wanna compare your commodore to.
I guess it depends on whos torana you wanna compare your commodore to.
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Posted 31 July 2006 - 08:10 PM
^^^^^ As Above, The $$$ Factor aswell.
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Posted 31 July 2006 - 08:12 PM
My 308 LC smokes everything I have ever owned...including my 300KW SV8..Go figger! Plus it gets more looks too! 
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Posted 31 July 2006 - 08:33 PM
yer and the badgers thay put on cars these days mean nothing!
300kw its a joke" as the others have said a good well work 202 will smoke a
new stock commodore v6 or v8
then when you got the balls you stick
a v8 in the little tory , then you have a wepon like roryms
cheers!
300kw its a joke" as the others have said a good well work 202 will smoke a
new stock commodore v6 or v8
then when you got the balls you stick a v8 in the little tory , then you have a wepon like roryms
cheers!
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Posted 31 July 2006 - 09:24 PM
Up against my mates SV6 Commodore at the lights, i blew the doors off him.
I came up to a VY SS the other day, i was in second gear, i gave him a bit of a rev, Then we both flattened it. Basically dead even until i backed off at around 130km/h.
I came up to a VY SS the other day, i was in second gear, i gave him a bit of a rev, Then we both flattened it. Basically dead even until i backed off at around 130km/h.
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Posted 31 July 2006 - 10:35 PM
on a priv, road wasnt' it.................... 
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