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Posted 29 July 2015 - 11:06 PM

Hi All,

Getting close to building the donk for the Torrie now and am going 355 big cam, ally heads etc etc.

Does anyone from WA know if this will pass the pits for rego or will i have to put a standard stick in it to get it over?

 

Cheers guys



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Posted 29 July 2015 - 11:10 PM

I'd get an engineer involved, they are listed on the DOT website.

 

And avoid going to Welshpool for the inspection.



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Posted 29 July 2015 - 11:18 PM

355 big cam ally heads will be fine nearly every muscle car has a big cam
cant see it being a problem

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Posted 29 July 2015 - 11:19 PM

Hello Craig,

 

they wouldn't know it is a 355 for starters hey,

 

also by putting a standard carby on the top,

 

with other bits and pieces,

 

would help in deceiving the monster underneath 

 

 

 

Just my 2 cents worth, as my RAT will go down the same path.  :furious:



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Posted 29 July 2015 - 11:26 PM

As long as you got the canister and pollution set up right you should be ok

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Posted 29 July 2015 - 11:29 PM

I'd get an engineer involved, they are listed on the DOT website.

 

Maybe I missed some details here but I assume it's an LX Torana and a Holden block stroker?

 

If so you may not need to have it engineered at all, with an engine block of the same 'family' you're allowed an increase of up to 20% (and 120% of 308ci is 369.6ci).


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Posted 29 July 2015 - 11:34 PM



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Posted 30 July 2015 - 09:11 AM

I'd get an engineer involved, they are listed on the DOT website.

 

And avoid going to Welshpool for the inspection.

Yeah mate heard about Welshpool, where would you go?



355 big cam ally heads will be fine nearly every muscle car has a big cam
cant see it being a problem

Sounds good, Cheers mate



Hello Craig,

 

they wouldn't know it is a 355 for starters hey,

 

also by putting a standard carby on the top,

 

with other bits and pieces,

 

would help in deceiving the monster underneath 

 

 

 

Just my 2 cents worth, as my RAT will go down the same path.  :furious:

We will see, fingers crossed



As long as you got the canister and pollution set up right you should be ok

Yes better remember that one for sure, Cheers



Maybe I missed some details here but I assume it's an LX Torana and a Holden block stroker?

 

If so you may not need to have it engineered at all, with an engine block of the same 'family' you're allowed an increase of up to 20% (and 120% of 308ci is 369.6ci).

Yeah LX mate sorry



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Posted 30 July 2015 - 09:12 AM

Maybe I missed some details here but I assume it's an LX Torana and a Holden block stroker?

 

All I'm saying is that the inspectors I've dealt with would probably pick the engine block as non original and not a Holden red, so would look at the following reqs (from the NCOP Section LA) and ask questions.

 

Perhaps they aren't as hot on old holdens these days, but I think it is more likely than not that without engineering input / signoff he's going over the pits more than once.

 

 

1.1 BASIC MODIFICATIONS NOT REQUIRING CERTIFICATION
The following are Basic Modifications that may be performed without certification providing the
modifications are carried out in compliance with the requirements detailed in Clause 2 General
Requirements:
 Fitting a replacement new, used or reconditioned engine;
 Fitting a manufacturer’s optional engine together with any associated components as
supplied by the manufacturer for that same model vehicle;
 Fitting replacement original equipment engine and exhaust components;
 Fitting replacement original equipment, equivalent or better, components that have no
influence on engine performance or emissions (e.g. higher volume oil pump than original);
and
 Fitting equivalent engines with an increase of up to 20% of original power.
In all of the above cases, if the engine is modified, it must be certified under the relevant Code
of Section LA.
1.2 MODIFICATIONS REQUIRING CERTIFICATION UNDER LA CODES
The following is a summary of modifications that may be performed under Section LA:
 Fitting engines greater than 120% of original power and/or engine mass;
 Fitting performance engines;
 Fitting engines from non original equipment sources;
 Installing a supercharger or turbocharger; and
 Modifying the engine and engine components that results in an increase in engine power
of more than 20% and/or affects exhaust emissions.

 

 

 

EXHAUST SYSTEM
Where possible, the muffler(s) and catalytic converter and/or particle trap from the exhaust system
of the donor vehicle should be used.

 


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When engines are modified by using alternative components such as camshafts, carburettors,
injectors and engine management systems, proof of compliance with the relevant ADR is required
(refer to Code LT3 - Gaseous Emissions Test in Section LT Test Procedures).


When engines are fitted with modified exhaust systems, proof of compliance with the relevant
standards is required (refer to Code LT4 - Noise Emissions Test in Section LT Test Procedures)


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Posted 30 July 2015 - 06:11 PM

There is a Shell service station on Mead St Kalamunda they do vehicle Inspections right next door
my mate took his 20 year old commodore and its got a decent cam and exhaust they only picked one thing it was to low
change of springs passed
make sure nothing is lower than 100 mm under the car to the road

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Posted 30 July 2015 - 06:36 PM

There is a Shell service station on Mead St Kalamunda they do vehicle Inspections right next door
my mate took his 20 year old commodore and its got a decent cam and exhaust they only picked one thing it was to low
change of springs passed
make sure nothing is lower than 100 mm under the car to the road

That's awsome, Thanks mate.



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Posted 30 July 2015 - 08:46 PM

Kosteras kalamunda garage is the place.

 

I went to Welshpool first - they picked a couple of things (justified actually)

 

Then went to Kosteras and they signed off the few things I had to fix.

One being an oil leak that they fixed and of course signed off on it.

 

Highly recommend them - and maybe if you have a chat with them they may be able to answer the questions?



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Posted 30 July 2015 - 08:51 PM

Yep thats it Mike

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Posted 31 July 2015 - 09:12 AM

Kosteras kalamunda garage is the place.

 

I went to Welshpool first - they picked a couple of things (justified actually)

 

Then went to Kosteras and they signed off the few things I had to fix.

One being an oil leak that they fixed and of course signed off on it.

 

Highly recommend them - and maybe if you have a chat with them they may be able to answer the questions?

Thanks buddy, i will have a chat with them.



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Posted 02 August 2015 - 08:48 PM

Any mods require a intent to modify form, filled in and sent to tranpsport department, they give you a go ahead and details on what they want engineer to check, then need to consult an engineer for advice/approval.
Providing engineer signs off, going over pits should be straight forward.
You may not have a choice as to what pits to go to.
As long as you cross your T's and dot your i's, it will go smoothly.

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Posted 03 August 2015 - 09:05 AM

Any mods require a intent to modify form, filled in and sent to tranpsport department, they give you a go ahead and details on what they want engineer to check, then need to consult an engineer for advice/approval.
Providing engineer signs off, going over pits should be straight forward.
You may not have a choice as to what pits to go to.
As long as you cross your T's and dot your i's, it will go smoothly.

Thanks mate



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Posted 03 August 2015 - 10:53 PM

No prob. I have taken a couple of cars over pits with mods, its the red tape that can make it difficult.
There is always a chance you will get a prick to deal with, but alot of them are not that bad if you approach with a good atitude




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