just wondering as a while back a fair bit of talk of the anti hoon laws just wondering if they are in and concreted in or was this just all talk of what they would like to have ??
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Posted 08 August 2006 - 11:11 PM
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Yep - they sure are in. There was a recent newspaper item that said that 94 cars had been siezed since 1 July when the laws came in in Vic. I think most other States have them also.
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Yep - they sure are in. There was a recent newspaper item that said that 94 cars had been siezed since 1 July when the laws came in in Vic. I think most other States have them also.
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Posted 09 August 2006 - 09:46 AM
There has been adds in the newspaper informing people about them yes.
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Posted 09 August 2006 - 09:57 AM
If you don't go around, squealing your tyres and laying long black lines or circular ones then you honestly have little to worry about.
If you do do the above activities on public streets then you deserve what you get.
Recently had a whole week of hoons doing burnouts during the night at the local shops, and I do mean everynight for a week and hours on end!. There was some serious horsepower to be heard.
Guess what - the place was setup and blitzed by the boys in blue and guess what again - the local population thanked them for it.
Can't say if they confiscated cars or not but I sincerely hope they did.
Oh I forgot to mention the local shops also supports a Tavern where these hoons gather. Maybe they had more than one charge layed on them.
Save it for the track boys.
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If you do do the above activities on public streets then you deserve what you get.
Recently had a whole week of hoons doing burnouts during the night at the local shops, and I do mean everynight for a week and hours on end!. There was some serious horsepower to be heard.
Guess what - the place was setup and blitzed by the boys in blue and guess what again - the local population thanked them for it.
Can't say if they confiscated cars or not but I sincerely hope they did.
Oh I forgot to mention the local shops also supports a Tavern where these hoons gather. Maybe they had more than one charge layed on them.
Save it for the track boys.
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Posted 09 August 2006 - 09:34 PM
^^^^ What he said!! Get on a track!! A1 knows what I am talking about!! Then you actually drive slower on the street...Bundaberg is the hoon capital of the world for population I am told..144 compounds in 12 months...not bad for a town of 47,000.
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Posted 09 August 2006 - 09:35 PM
mmm... Race Tracks rule.
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Posted 12 August 2006 - 05:53 AM
MMM... Anti-hoon laws have been in effect for a while now. I was a victim of them approx. 6months ago when i was given a ticket, demerit points and an official warning for squealing my tyres. Shame i didnt do it though... I wont go into too much detail, but if you get a canary and you didnt do it, i suggest you fight it. The officer who pulled me up has had more than just one complaint against him for falsely handing out tickets to young people.
Thats not to say young people DONT deserve a ticket when they screw up, just that the police should make sure they ticket when it's appropriate. There's plenty of w@nkers in Townsville who deserve a $250 fine for doing burnouts, they can book them all because i dont believe in tyre smoke unless im wearing my skidders, and on a drag strip.
Thank you for your time!!
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Thats not to say young people DONT deserve a ticket when they screw up, just that the police should make sure they ticket when it's appropriate. There's plenty of w@nkers in Townsville who deserve a $250 fine for doing burnouts, they can book them all because i dont believe in tyre smoke unless im wearing my skidders, and on a drag strip.
Thank you for your time!!
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Posted 12 August 2006 - 11:38 AM
I'd say it's probably just the hard arse redneck cop capital of the world.Bundaberg is the hoon capital of the world for population I am told..144 compounds in 12 months...not bad for a town of 47,000.
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Herne, u know why all the hoons are doing it in resedential areas? Because the cops hang out in the industrial areas and all the places where no one gives a shit.
My mate got done for burnouts in an industrial zone in the middle of nowhere in the middle of the night. You think he'll ever do one in an industrial zone again? Hell no. Meanwhile the end of his street looks like a burnout pad. What a stupid scenario.. Now his neighbourhood looses out. The cops don't need to patrol the industrials for theives as they almost always have private security companies cruising around (who couldn't care less about hoons). It would be nice to see some cops actually focusing on the gangs of shitheads out there bashing and raping people instead of pissing about in the industrial zones looking for some kid to play their officer hard ass routine to for squeeling his tyres.
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Posted 12 August 2006 - 12:13 PM
Just read a report in my local paper this morning about some guys that got busted doing way too much over the limit in Endevour Hills. Both had their cars confiscated for 48 hours, and had to pay inpound fees of $490.
The laws are definately active.
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The laws are definately active.
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Posted 12 August 2006 - 04:03 PM
Hi QIKSLRsnip
I'd say it's probably just the hard arse redneck cop capital of the world.
Herne, u know why all the hoons are doing it in resedential areas? Because the cops hang out in the industrial areas and all the places where no one gives a shit.
My mate got done for burnouts in an industrial zone in the middle of nowhere in the middle of the night. You think he'll ever do one in an industrial zone again? Hell no. Meanwhile the end of his street looks like a burnout pad. What a stupid scenario.. Now his neighbourhood looses out. The cops don't need to patrol the industrials for theives as they almost always have private security companies cruising around (who couldn't care less about hoons). It would be nice to see some cops actually focusing on the gangs of shitheads out there bashing and raping people instead of pissing about in the industrial zones looking for some kid to play their officer hard ass routine to for squeeling his tyres.
I know where you are coming from and for the most part somewhat agree with what you are saying. I definitely agree with it being a lone redneck type cop. Bad apples are to be found in every barrel.
As for taking burnouts to a lonely industrial area well thats another matter. Certainly seems to make sense on the face of it but one guy doing burnouts turns into dozens, dare I suggest even a hundred or more guys lining the streets of said industrial area egging people on to do burnouts AND illegal dragracing. Whos to care I hear you say!
Well what happens when a P plater with 1000hp under his hood loses control of his car and kills somene? The police would be well in the shit if they knew about the area and ignored the potential problem. I would not like to be in a coppers size 13 shoes, he's damned if he does and damned if he don't.
I used a P plater as a typical example simply due to the fact that the majority of P platers are young and its the young who are most likely to congregate in large numbers where illegal vehicle activities take place. It could just as easily be someone my age but lets face it people my age are generally not invited to illegal street meets.
As for gangs of shitheads and thugs raping and pillaging YES I totally agree more could and should be done to curb those too.
I say again KEEP IT ON THE TRACK!
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Posted 13 August 2006 - 10:10 AM
Yeh your exactly right. But it's just sad that pushes the same activities into residential areas where inocent people will be put at risk and subjected to loud noise etc. Since my last post (yesterday morning), there were 2 massive burnouts done in my street. (not by anyone I know). Because everyone knows that the cops don't patrol the area. There was also a gang of thugs roaming around smashing bottles and lighting things on fire. Where were all the coppers? Probably setting up defect stations somewhere. It just shits me that I don't feel the slightest sense of protection from the police, the thugs in my area can do whatever they like. But everytime we go for a drive in my mates torrry theres no shortage of highway patrols waiting to get him.
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Posted 13 August 2006 - 10:33 AM
Hi QIKSLR, mate you and I both know it comes down to bgucking revenue raising these days. Its far simpler to pull a guy over doing 10 k over the limit on the highway than it is to find hoons, book them and risk getting punched out in the process.
Its a crying shame that our society is based on greed, we have designed a terrible system that is more and more taxing.
Bring back the good old days where the coppers used to give a hoon a hiding. After all he is a hoon and he is annoying the public, he has no rights
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Herne
Its a crying shame that our society is based on greed, we have designed a terrible system that is more and more taxing.
Bring back the good old days where the coppers used to give a hoon a hiding. After all he is a hoon and he is annoying the public, he has no rights
Cheers
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Posted 13 August 2006 - 08:40 PM
just pick your roads and times
race tracks are shit rip off paying 30-50 bucks entry fees personally i reckon 10 bucks a head would be good
years ago you could easily run from the cops with no hassles heard dozens of stories
today though sadly its not that easy unless your ghost rider
so i geuss its just a risk you take
race tracks are shit rip off paying 30-50 bucks entry fees personally i reckon 10 bucks a head would be good
years ago you could easily run from the cops with no hassles heard dozens of stories
today though sadly its not that easy unless your ghost rider
so i geuss its just a risk you take
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Posted 13 August 2006 - 09:07 PM
Ok Chevy, just don't come crying here when the coppers take your car off you, You want to be the man and risk it, then wear it, dont cry like some do here OK 
Oh and dont whinge when some older bloke wants to kick your ass for doing it
Herne
Oh and dont whinge when some older bloke wants to kick your ass for doing it
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Posted 14 August 2006 - 01:01 PM
I'm one to advocate taking your car out on the track and letting rip to keep it off the road. This would be utopia (the perfect world)
The reasons why this doesn't happen:
Lack of faciliities for start
Accesability on venue open times
Cost of entry/admission is over the top
The cops target these days/venues by having defect blitzes. This only encourages people to go else where.
Don't get value for money (track time) if it's busy. Can remember paying $50 and only doing 3 runs at a street meet.
Gawd no wander it's problem on the street. Roll the dice take your chances I say. Just don't cry if ya get caught as it is the law after all.
The reasons why this doesn't happen:
Lack of faciliities for start
Accesability on venue open times
Cost of entry/admission is over the top
The cops target these days/venues by having defect blitzes. This only encourages people to go else where.
Don't get value for money (track time) if it's busy. Can remember paying $50 and only doing 3 runs at a street meet.
Gawd no wander it's problem on the street. Roll the dice take your chances I say. Just don't cry if ya get caught as it is the law after all.
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Posted 14 August 2006 - 04:18 PM
Herne you as a dad, would you give your 18 years old P plater son a 1000hp car to drive as his 1st car?Well what happens when a P plater with 1000hp under his hood loses control of his car and kills somene?
I know you wouldnt, neither would any decent parent, what im trying to say is that the parents that fund such highly powerd cars for there Kids deserve to be in trouble with the law just the same as the P plater is when he stuffs up. How can a young kid out of high school at 18 years of age afford such a big HP car without help?
These hoon laws arnt a bad thing, if losinng your lisence, canary on your car, big big fines dosnt make hoons see the light then taking there pride and joy away will.. Shit crappy laws and totaly unfair but very needed in many ways, maybe if parents were educated to not fund such big HP fast cars for there kids things would be different.
Would you give a 5 year old a sharp knife to play with?
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Posted 14 August 2006 - 04:40 PM
Totally agree John.
My kids learnt to drive in very moderate, sedate cars, 4 and mild 6 cyl at best.
I am a firm believer that the laws are going to get tougher still. A quick read of some of the forum statements confirms why Questions like "is a school parking lot a public road" etc says much
Any car can be a weapon! but its so much easier if the thing smokes up and does pretty fair 1/4 mile times.
I could go on but it would only serve to feed some guys so I won't
Cheers
Herne
My kids learnt to drive in very moderate, sedate cars, 4 and mild 6 cyl at best.
I am a firm believer that the laws are going to get tougher still. A quick read of some of the forum statements confirms why
Questions like "is a school parking lot a public road" etc says muchAny car can be a weapon! but its so much easier if the thing smokes up and does pretty fair 1/4 mile times.
I could go on but it would only serve to feed some guys so I won't
Cheers
Herne
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Posted 14 August 2006 - 08:53 PM
im 16 and doing up a hot as 253 with a bunch of hot mods and plans are to whack it into a lc 2door
though i am still supposedly learning to drive (Ls) i have been taking it easy and rarely have given it gos even at lights i dont go spastic not every light is a race track but if i line up against something decent well then the fun begins... so far i havent gone doing burnouts as i dont see the point of that on roads i must admit
i agree though if you want to get the hoons of the streets then build more drag tracks around the joint !!
if i am gonna be judged as a hoon for these activities
then call me a rebel with no cause
though i am still supposedly learning to drive (Ls) i have been taking it easy and rarely have given it gos even at lights i dont go spastic not every light is a race track but if i line up against something decent well then the fun begins... so far i havent gone doing burnouts as i dont see the point of that on roads i must admit
i agree though if you want to get the hoons of the streets then build more drag tracks around the joint !!
if i am gonna be judged as a hoon for these activities
then call me a rebel with no cause
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Posted 15 August 2006 - 07:01 AM
That sort of logic is a little like, "if you have trouble with sex offenderes build more whore houses"i agree though if you want to get the hoons of the streets then build more drag tracks around the joint !!
Dont have a prob with people doing their stuff on a drag strip(apart from the toxic fumes), but let them pay for it.......not out of the public purse. Ill think you find that laying down bitumen for a drag strip is very expensive......its a very expensive sport. If its too expensive find a cheaper hobby......think ive said that before.
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Posted 15 August 2006 - 08:03 AM
I know i was lucky when i was growing up... My folks gave a damn about us and how we were taught to drive.
My brother was always a bigger rev head than me and he bought ( with help from dad) a VW powered buggy. They fixed the thing up and he used to drive it around the back yard ( Yes... on a 1/4 acre block in sydney.. what a laugh).. till it was good enough to be taken to the new family block of land. He then thrashed the thing through fire trails and the scrub and really learnt to handle a vehicle. He also spent alot of time racing go karts at the local kart track.
That kind of practice gave him a humungous level of knowledge and cofidence and unfortunately he brought alot of that to the road with him. He's done alot of crazy stuff and his driving style was still typical P plater ( and beyond).. but he COULD HANDLE it! And this is provlem by him being one of his only mates not to have crashed a car or lost his licence. (Not for lack of trying!).
Alot comes down to the person themselves, their upbringing and the cars that they drive, but alot also comes down to the correct training and as the guys above have said, better decision making skills. (More thought less balls).
I think the laws are needed because the acts that these people are doing are just getting sillier and sillier and you cant turn a blind eye. But what must be done is more effort from teh parents to teach a child to drive and the skills they'll need and also for the government to realise that a licence is a PRIVELIDGE not a RIGHT... People must be made to earn the licence not just pass a test.
I'll get off the soap box.
My brother was always a bigger rev head than me and he bought ( with help from dad) a VW powered buggy. They fixed the thing up and he used to drive it around the back yard ( Yes... on a 1/4 acre block in sydney.. what a laugh).. till it was good enough to be taken to the new family block of land. He then thrashed the thing through fire trails and the scrub and really learnt to handle a vehicle. He also spent alot of time racing go karts at the local kart track.
That kind of practice gave him a humungous level of knowledge and cofidence and unfortunately he brought alot of that to the road with him. He's done alot of crazy stuff and his driving style was still typical P plater ( and beyond).. but he COULD HANDLE it! And this is provlem by him being one of his only mates not to have crashed a car or lost his licence. (Not for lack of trying!).
Alot comes down to the person themselves, their upbringing and the cars that they drive, but alot also comes down to the correct training and as the guys above have said, better decision making skills. (More thought less balls).
I think the laws are needed because the acts that these people are doing are just getting sillier and sillier and you cant turn a blind eye. But what must be done is more effort from teh parents to teach a child to drive and the skills they'll need and also for the government to realise that a licence is a PRIVELIDGE not a RIGHT... People must be made to earn the licence not just pass a test.
I'll get off the soap box.
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Posted 17 August 2006 - 10:08 AM
Hi All
In Victoria, 130 cars have now been impounded in 7 weeks. The first "two time loser" was charged for "fishtailing" at 130 kph in a 60 zone. After court appearance he can lose his car for 3 months.
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In Victoria, 130 cars have now been impounded in 7 weeks. The first "two time loser" was charged for "fishtailing" at 130 kph in a 60 zone. After court appearance he can lose his car for 3 months.
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