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#1 Shiney005

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Posted 03 October 2023 - 09:36 AM

This hatch has popped up on AMCS, and looking at the chassis number I thought it had to be a very late one.  DLX0 62922. It is a re stamp on the rail, but the same number is on the (1-78) compliance plate. BODY number is 602675.

I have sedan on record that is a 2-78 build. The chassis number on that one is D CLX 062319, but the BODY number is 603075, which is 400 higher than the hatch.  I believe the confusion over the last VF Commodore built was created by a similar scenario.

 

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Posted 03 October 2023 - 02:26 PM

I'm not sure how this car happened Laurie. Doesn't make sense. That ADR tag is also an auto car tag and the body tag is for an auto car. The ADR tag looks very consistent with other 1/78 tags. LX shouldn't bounce around like this though. With that PSN it should be either late 1/78 or early 2/78. J602893 is 2/78 and its chassis is DLX062242M. It is a shame the chassis number has been destroyed on the car. I just don't get how a car with a chassis number that high is complianced 1/78, I get the PSN for 1/78 though. The only possibility is maybe a chassis number error on the ADR tag? Should be DLX061922M, then it fits.



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Posted 12 November 2023 - 08:38 AM

My SS Lx is 61627. Pretty Late.

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Posted 12 November 2023 - 09:02 AM

It does appear it's a bit of a dog's breakfast in the 1978 LX's. Many bodies were probably produced leading up to Xmas 1977 and these got chassis numbers prior to paint (which is why some had to be re-complianced number with the C crossed out and D added). Normally LX chassis number tracks perfectly with PSN other than the spare part bodies, but not in 1978 as clearly other forces were in play - possibly UC volume starting and HZ ending at Dandenong in December 1977. So LX had to follow the painting schedule of UC rather than HZ front panel painting and subsequent assembly following LX.



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Posted 12 November 2023 - 12:54 PM

Question. How was the painting sequence performed and when was the body black applied, before or after colour?

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Posted 12 November 2023 - 04:16 PM

It depends upon the Assembly Plant and what the car was. But before that, by the black do you mean the blackouts on GTS, Sandman etc or the black inside areas like the plenum and underneath?



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Posted 12 November 2023 - 06:39 PM

Black on the inside areas such as boot/hatch, plenum, radiator support etc.

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Posted 13 November 2023 - 05:56 AM

Not certain on those for U sized Torana. But the interior stuff had to have gone on in the Body Plant. Logic says that as most of that stuff is air dry it went on after body paint as the car bodies were baked after paint was applied. They'd also not want to get heat cured acrylic and then any dust from cutting/buffing all over the interior satin finish paint. All of the hanging panels that had interior trim on them also went on in the Body plant as did the headlining, so you'd imagine that that satin interior paint and other finishing black like the plenum was done in that same timeframe. The exterior blackouts were done at different times and that did vary from plant to plant. Sometimes it was in the finishing area, other times it was in the body plant. I have images of Elizabeth painted and hard trimmed van bodies heading to Dandenong and the Sandmans already have black sills.



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Posted 16 November 2023 - 07:37 PM

Very interesting thank you.

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Posted 19 November 2023 - 10:51 AM

I had a '2 /78 SLR which had a close chassis #. 

 

I've heard rumours of the LX's being complied as 3 / '78 but i have never seen one. 

 

There are a few subtle differences with the '78 built cars.  For example : the steering coffee pot is slightly different  because they had the single ear ignition barrel. 

 

I flew to Brisbane once to look at a '78 LX hatch that was actually a UC with LX tags. The chassis # matched the tags. Go figure ! 

 

Why is that hatch wearing a VB69 tag instead of a VB77 ? 






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