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#1 redtorana#3

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Posted 09 June 2024 - 10:27 PM

Anyone got pictures or diagram of the actual positioning of the pipework coming from the rear?

I need diameters also please plus fuel tank breather lines that end up in the wheel wells some where?

Mine are missing or a mess.



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Posted 09 August 2024 - 12:19 PM

At a stage where I need some help.

What filter is at the end of the fuel tank breather lines in the wheel wells? Do they need to be in the wheel wells? Can they be run elsewhere?

 

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Posted 09 August 2024 - 12:42 PM

Doesn’t it go to the carbon canister?


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Posted 09 August 2024 - 05:44 PM

Doesn’t it go to the carbon canister?


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Cheers mate yes it looks like they both go to a fuel tank liquid/vapor separator then to the canister.

So now I'm after one of those I suppose.



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Posted 10 August 2024 - 10:18 AM

do you need the separator or canister ? 

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Posted 10 August 2024 - 10:24 AM

Hi Brad. These might help to start with. Cheers Ron

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Posted 10 August 2024 - 04:57 PM

I made new wheel arch breather pipes from brake tube. 

 

Is the seperator required ? 

Beats me ! I fitted a BD droptank & i never used it. 



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Posted 10 August 2024 - 05:41 PM

You probably dont need the separator but the canister may be needed for ADR , could just run the right pipe to canister , I think before the change in ADR the only vents were thin tubes with a "pigtail" in the wheel arch.

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Posted 11 August 2024 - 11:34 AM

Thanks for the info guys I might go with one of these for rego purposes up the arse end somewhere.

$18 so no biggy.

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Posted 11 August 2024 - 05:41 PM

You mean one of these?

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Posted 11 August 2024 - 05:46 PM

Thanks Brad , pic was too big for me too send

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Posted 11 August 2024 - 10:37 PM

You mean one of these?

Yep.



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Posted 12 August 2024 - 10:40 AM

From the start of LH until Jan 1975 (ADR 27) there was no fuel separator or carbon canister. The fuel tank was vented to the rear wheel arches. (I always look under there when dating Torana bodies as there are two small tabs welded on for the pipes.) From Jan 1975 until Jan 1976 (ADR 27A) the fuel tank was sealed with a different cap and removal of vent pipes, and the 4 port carbon canister was added. From Jan 1976 onwards the canister had three ports.

 

https://www.gmh-tora...-from-canister/



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Posted 12 August 2024 - 01:09 PM

Have you got a link to that item Brad? I'm putting a canister in my HK as I hate the fuel smell out of pre 1/75 Holdens without canisters. I'm venting the tank out of the standard HK breather plus the one out of the adapted VZ MRA unit, but I'm worried about it bringing fuel to the front of the car up the canister line given the height of a HK tank relative to the vapour line to the front. So a separator like that would potentially fit nicely under the car in front of the tank.

 

From the start of LH until Jan 1975 (ADR 27) there was no fuel separator or carbon canister. The fuel tank was vented to the rear wheel arches. (I always look under there when dating Torana bodies as there are two small tabs welded on for the pipes.) From Jan 1975 until Jan 1976 (ADR 27A) the fuel tank was sealed with a different cap and removal of vent pipes, and the 4 port carbon canister was added. From Jan 1976 onwards the canister had three ports.

 

https://www.gmh-tora...-from-canister/

 

That's July 1976 onwards Laurie. Not Jan 1976. For both ADR27A and the 3 port canister (as the carbs had a purge port added, no need for the ported vacuum control of the canister).



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Posted 12 August 2024 - 08:23 PM

That canister belongs to EunUCh.

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Posted 12 August 2024 - 08:58 PM

That canister belongs to EunUCh.


Wrong Brad!

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Posted 12 August 2024 - 09:50 PM

Have you got a link to that item Brad? I'm putting a canister in my HK as I hate the fuel smell out of pre 1/75 Holdens without canisters. I'm venting the tank out of the standard HK breather plus the one out of the adapted VZ MRA unit, but I'm worried about it bringing fuel to the front of the car up the canister line given the height of a HK tank relative to the vapour line to the front. So a separator like that would potentially fit nicely under the car in front of the tank.

 

 

That's July 1976 onwards Laurie. Not Jan 1976. For both ADR27A and the 3 port canister (as the carbs had a purge port added, no need for the ported vacuum control of the canister).

Here you go mate.

https://www.heritage...TBoC508QAvD_BwE

 

And if that doesn't work just google VW seperator.



I have a three nozzle canister and no tabs in the wheel wells. Just to make that clear.

I also have some mount in the rear LHS that could hold a seperator.



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Posted 13 August 2024 - 07:15 AM

Thanks mate. I'll go looking for one elsewhere, they are $33 shipping, someone locally will have one.



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Posted 13 August 2024 - 05:52 PM

Here's a pic of mine. I remember it was a pain routing it all at the time but the tab/brackets on the underbody give you a fair idea how it all runs. Cheers Ron

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Posted 16 August 2024 - 10:42 PM

Here's a pic of mine. I remember it was a pain routing it all at the time but the tab/brackets on the underbody give you a fair idea how it all runs. Cheers Ron

Yes, exactly what I have. Great pic thanks.



Thanks mate. I'll go looking for one elsewhere, they are $33 shipping, someone locally will have one.

Yeah, the shipping sux hard.






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