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5 speed for 253 + other questions

Started by _youngy_11_ , Sep 10 2006 05:44 PM

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#1 _youngy_11_

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Posted 10 September 2006 - 05:44 PM

hi,
I have been looking at a few other hatchs and have found one that is preety good, anyway its got a 253 in it with an auto box.

If I go with this I doubt I would keep to my original plans of fitting a V6 i would run with the 253 and convert it to manual.
I am only on my P's, but have done a little research and if a parent registers it in there name and its there only registered car and im the second driver. I can get a exemption that cost around $40.(Another RTA rought, but acceptable if I can drive a V8).
Anyone had similar experiences or know the RTA restrictions BULLSHIT?

Whats involved with the pedals and attaching the clutch pedal as the car is originally auto????
(I do have another hatch that is manual that i could get the pedals off it)

The supra/celica box seems the best way to go from the reading? Wheres the best places to pick one of those up???

Could someone clarify what the diff ratio's mean :blink:

?? i.e the difference between 3.08 to3.55 ratios??

Another question lol. :spoton:

If i go the V8 I would probably put it on LPG.
The V8 was already set up on LPG as it came from a Van but the seller sold the tank as it didn't fit in.

The setup looked quite dodgy(In the engine bay) but my father and I have got no idea on LPG setups.

The seller recons he was going to get 2 custom tanks to fit in the back, but I think it is better to go with one larger tank where the rear hatch floor is cut to fit the tank.

I think knoaths just sold hatch was exactly the perfect example.

Where would the spare tyre go?

Thanks RYAN

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#2 bryanw

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Posted 11 September 2006 - 12:59 AM

So have you got the paint off the first one you bought?

maybe it is best you keep working on the one you have till you decide exactly what you want to do. every time you change your mind it costs time and money!

nothing wrong with an auto. you break less axles, diffs, uni's, not to mention sincro rings and clutch plates. broke the mounts off a housing once!

just use a 202, maybe the vk efi and auto. use a gemini torque converter for a bit more go! or not.
finish something simple first. learn heaps and it won't cost to much if you do the work. won't matter if you stuff it up, it's just an SL.

by the time you finish this you can enjouy driving it and just go to an LS1 on the next project.

my thoughts are you need one every day car with air bags etc, park it anywhere.

and then the weekend cars.

don't know much about the LX, but lc/j the pedal is interchangable on the brackets.

weekend cars don't need lpg or overdrives.

3.55:1 tailshaft rotates 3.55 times, axle once

3.08:1 tailshaft rotates 3.08 times, axle once. so revs are less at the same spd, or you go faster at the same revs compared with either the 3.9,3.55,3.36. ratios

3.08 is o/k for now, or 2.78

if you want economy/safety, get a vs v6 2 airbags on gas. maybe a vt?

having a nice car is fine, but it is not practical.
I have a wh ls1 on gas, I take it everywhere, park it anywhere, and it will probably still be there when I get back, not damaged.
but if it was a nice coupe, that would be less likely. thats just from my experience.

the body is the hard part, sort that out while you decide on the rest.
most other bits bolt in/on

Ps. cops don't pull over Vs's doing 63 in a 60 zone! well not often
don't get me wrong, love my toranas, and I am about to start on one soon.
but they often attract the wrong kind of attention.

cheers

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#3 _youngy_11_

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Posted 11 September 2006 - 03:38 PM

Thanks for all that information.

I haven't spent any money on the hatch I have so i can walk away from it now and wouldn't loose any money. I have had a few quotes on it and it is going to be too much for metal repairs.

I can see where your coming from about the hatch being not practicle compared to a standard car but its a project and I would rather do it right the first time then do it and not be happy with the final product after putting hours of work in, its just me.

And sorry but I couldn't stand spending all that time to have an auto, just as a young bloke seems pointless. Autos are for luxery, city driving and people that can't be bothered. Which will be me when im older, i know that.

Yes it would be good to be able to have a torana for a weekend driver but atm moment that isn't possible, i can see where ya coming from with making a dodgy or not immaculate first project but as i have said my father and I want to do the car properly the first time as I am planning to keep it for a while and if I do have to leave bcz of a reasons such as work. Im sure my dad would hapily look after it.

Now im not after a show car but as I have said im after a reliable, RUST free, economical car that has a nice finish.

youngy

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#4 _JNR_ATE_

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Posted 16 September 2006 - 04:48 PM

I reckon, if u do it right the first time you will spend BIG BUCKS. Your better off to start small and then build up, that way you will not what not to spend your money on, what you can get away with, what parts cost what, you will have made contacts from doing the first one which will help with the next bigger project.

You will notice all the spots you went wrong and know exactly how to fix or not do again, thats what i found after my torry is finished.

All the stuff i went out and brought first, i wasted my hard money buying stuff i could of saved for while the engine was being done.

Cheers
JNR_ATE

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#5 _Keithy's_UC_

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Posted 20 September 2006 - 10:28 AM

I'm with JNR_ATE, the UC i currently own is my first car. I wanted it to look good and sound and go just as well. It's only a 6cyl, but it's quick. I've spent near on $30 000 on it - which could buy me a low km VZ SV6 with all the luxuries and air-con too.

My point is - you want to do it right and make it look good (not show, but clean street look) it's gonna cost you.

Paint - $5k
Engine - $4500
Wheels & Tyres - $3500
Exhaust - $440
Pacemakers - $550
Tinted windows, steering wheel, other go fast bits - up to $5k...
And more...

It all adds up over time, but if its what you want and have the cash - go for it! Best advice i can give is listen to the old blokes who do all the work on your car. They may seem like they are trying to jipp you sometimes with your hard earned, but they are just making a buck... If you keep going back, they'll share their info and time with you quite happily. And you'll start getting discounts and make a good friend in the process... They remember who you are if you stay loyal! And thats the way you'll save your money in the long run.

Cheers
Keith