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[Bazza]

Hi all

I have seen the following numbers presented as the total production numbers for the LC and LJ XU-1s. I have never seen any figures for the basic GTRs

LC XU-1 1633
LJ XU-1 1667

I know that the above numbers have been challenged for being inaccurate but as far as I know nobody has attempted to correct them.

For what it is worth, for the past week I have been carefully checking the LC/LJ VIN disk and have arrived at the figures below:

LC GTRs 6570 (On sale for 28 months)
LC XU-1s 1405 (On sale for 18 months)

LJ GTRs 3594 (On sale for 24 months)
LJ XU-1s 2181 (On sale for 24 months)


Any comments?

Bazza

[Zook]

You have too much time on your hands Bazza!
Good work, keep it up

[Bazza]

You have too much time on your hands Bazza!
Good work, keep it up

Yep - too much time due to the fact that it is freezing in the shed.

Oh well, at least the figures are there for the next person that asks about LC LJ GTR/XU-1 production numbers.

Bazza

[GTR-1]

Hi all

I have seen the following numbers presented as the total production numbers for the LC and LJ XU-1s. I have never seen any figures for the basic GTRs

LC XU-1 1633
LJ XU-1 1667

I know that the above numbers have been challenged for being inaccurate but as far as I know nobody has attempted to correct them.

For what it is worth, for the past week I have been carefully checking the LC/LJ VIN disk and have arrived at the figures below:

LC GTRs 6570 (On sale for 28 months)
LC XU-1s 1405 (On sale for 18 months)

LJ GTRs 3594 (On sale for 24 months)
LJ XU-1s 2181 (On sale for 24 months)


Any comments?

Bazza

Is there any chance of narrowing that down to how many LC GTR's were produced from 7/71 ownards? Just want to know how many they produced with a 173 engine.

[Bazza]

Hi GTR-1

Yep - I have already thought about that - now I have a reason. I will get back to you.

Bazza

[Bazza]

LC GTRs fitted with 173S:

Brisbane 306
Adelaide 343

Total 647


Bazza

[GTR-1]

LC GTRs fitted with 173S:

Brisbane 306
Adelaide 343

Total 647


Bazza

647. Wicked. And I have 1 of them.


Have you got any other informative information about them? (173 GTR's)

[Bazza]

Have you got any other informative information about them? (173 GTR's)

Hi GTR-1


The only other useful info from the CD is that the last Brisbane GTR was completed on 1/12/71 and sold in Jan '72 and the last Adelaide GTR was completed on 31/12/71 and sold in Feb '72.

If you PM your VIN I could probably work out where your car fits in the scheme of things.

Bazza

[71xu1]

Hi in reply to Skapinad question about copyright. On the inside cover of the parts catalogue it states that Reproduction in whole or in part prohibited without written approval. I emailed Holden about getting approval to scan the parts document the reply was you will need to put your request in writing to the Holden legal department if they decide it is okay they will notify you in writing. Anyway you look at it legally if its scanned, photocopied etc you are still reproducing someone elses material and are breaking copyright law.

[meanmachine72]

Hi in reply to Skapinad question about copyright. On the inside cover of the parts catalogue it states that Reproduction in whole or in part prohibited without written approval. I emailed Holden about getting approval to scan the parts document the reply was you will need to put your request in writing to the Holden legal department if they decide it is okay they will notify you in writing. Anyway you look at it legally if its scanned, photocopied etc you are still reproducing someone elses material and are breaking copyright law.

NOW SELLING on E ay for 10 bills....
everybody got one???

[Bazza]

Shit bazza quite a feat mate. You must have square eyes. Did you have a cricket score counter or something?

Hi

It took about a week @ 5 - 8 hours a day to run the eyes over the near 150,000 entries. I highlighted the relevant BETSBAC codes then put them on a speadsheet (just the totals for each page - not the actual PSN codes). I double checked everything so I reckon my results would be pretty accurate. I used to do a lot of data analysis type stuff in my last job - so I am used to this kind of stuff.

Another interesting thing - GTRs represent 6.9% of the total number of LC/LJ Toranas and XU-1s 2.4%.

It was just something I was curious about as I didn't think the published numbers made sense.

Bazza

[FLY_AGAIN_XU-1]

Gidday Bazza
A little quieter up here !!!!!!!!!!
Have you done a spread sheet of LJ XU-1,s built at the Adelaide plant in the months of August, September and October. If so have you any theories on what may have taken place at the Adelaide plant in these months ? They are all over the place like they got hit by a bomb. Any ideas ?
Thanks Bazza
B.

[Bazza]

Hi FLY_AGAIN_XU-1

The Adelaide production over that period of 1972 was;

July - 5
Aug - 90
Sept - 152
Oct - 25 (most in the second half of the month)

I think there was similar activity in Brisbane.

Bazza

[Bazza]

Hi Gav

Sorry the VIN CD doesn't give that info (don't we all wish it did). In fact, getting the original engine number is a bonus.

Like most things, whether it is antique furniture, vintage guitars or cars etc etc, good original examples are always worth more. I was told once, and someone will correct me - that in the case of cars (with all other things being equal) being refinished in the wrong colour will reduce its value by 10 - 15% over a refinished car having the correct colour.

This is not as savage as in the case of antiques or vintage guitars (which I know a bit about) where refinishing in any way will reduce the item by 40 to 50%.

I go for originality (Lime Green Met in my case) but I would be happy with any colour XU-1. In my view, there are many less appealing colours than Covert Met.

Bazza

[FLY_AGAIN_XU-1]

Thus a little mystery lays of what just did happen at the Adelaide plant in those months of August, September and October.

August 90
Sept 152
Oct 8 (Up to L216000) Total 250

I wonder how many of these were XU-2 shells ?

[FLY_AGAIN_XU-1]

Baz, what does your records show for L215999 ? Paul, I think your car is 1 of 8 September cars finished off in October with L216000 being the last 1972 Bathurst special produced at the Adelaide plant. (May of had to remove a V8 and drop a 6 in ?) Sorry for any confusion there Paul. L214047 was finished off on the 27-10-1972 and hows this one L211740 which is a August vin was finished off on the 19-10-1972 and had an October engine number JP234.

Dont worry Paul i even confuse myself at times !!!!!!!!!!

You may of just cracked this 1972 Bathurst thing wide open.

Edited by FLY_AGAIN_XU-1, 09 August 2007 - 06:28 PM.

[Bazza]

Hi

215999 completed 10/10/72
215600 completed 12/10/72

What about 211736 completed 15/9/72 with a circa May '72 engine number? In fact there are number examples where the engine number jumps back well out of sequence. Maybe these cars were retrofitted with the JP?

Bazza

[kerm74]

Hi Bazza, any idea how many LC GTRs produced in 1969, and more specifically how many in October 1969,
cheers

[Bazza]

any idea how many LC GTRs produced in 1969, and more specifically how many in October 1969,

Hi kerm74

My count for LC GTRs for Oct 1969:

Melbourne 53
Brisbane 38
Adelaide 40
Sydney 61

Total 192