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Started by _LXSSpwr_ , Dec 04 2011 02:48 PM
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#1 _LXSSpwr_

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Posted 04 December 2011 - 02:48 PM

Hi,

I have a VT V8 5 speed donor car that I am using the motor and gearbox for a build in the hatch. After doing some research I am still unsure if I should use the getrag or sell it off and get a T5.

Its my understanding that i will have to cut the tunnel to make the getrag fit, which I'm really keen on doing. The up side of the getrag is that the clutch in it is only a few months old (as i was told) and it is hydraulic clutch.

What are peoples thoughts on using the getrag? Which T5 should I go for?

Cheers,
Dave

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Posted 04 December 2011 - 06:26 PM

I put a VN V8 T5 in my LX Hatch. I originally had a Getrag from a VS but sold it. Apparently I had to have a dual mass fly wheel to go with it which costs a bit, plus the mods to to the tunnel it would have needed. The T5 went in with no worries. My hatch used to be an auto so the different shifter position didn't bother me to much.

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Posted 04 December 2011 - 07:05 PM

Getrag is a dog of a box. Clutches cost a fortune. Tunnel mods are extensive, and will require Engineering.
I'd get rid of it and fit an auto. Or failing that a T5.

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Posted 04 December 2011 - 10:45 PM

there's nothing wrong with the getrags but yeah the tunnel mods aren't fun... my ute caught fire while doing the tunnel mod haha... but the clutches are expensive but they are mint...

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Posted 05 December 2011 - 03:01 PM

thanks for the input...

the other pain with the getrag is the elec speedo

I think that I'll go down the t5 route and try and sell the getrag... will chuck it on ebay tonight i think

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Posted 05 December 2011 - 04:38 PM

Nothing wrong with the getrag
And the clutches aren't that much more expensive if you stear away from the HSV dual mass setups
They are bigger too

Hydraulic clutch if set up correctly with concentric slave cylinder are a bonus too (toss the orgininal style and fork)

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Posted 05 December 2011 - 07:00 PM

Any ideas on how much the tunnel needs to be modified to fit the getrag? Cant seem to find pics anywhere

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Posted 05 December 2011 - 08:09 PM

Was just about to ask the same question , how much tunel mods need to be done to fit the getrag in a LX

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Posted 05 December 2011 - 08:32 PM

A friend of mine put one behind a 308 in my old WB 1-tonner. He bought the Getrag brand new when HSV used to pull them out and replace them with T56's a sthey weren't up to the job. The tunnel mod was HUGE. And the shifter basically came out of where the centre console armrest is in a WB. Plus he had to get an electronic speedo conversion for it.

Datto, I thought all Getrag V8 clutches (VS and VT) were for dual mass flywheels.

Ask Dr Terry what he thinks of them before proceeding too.

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Posted 05 December 2011 - 09:27 PM

My info (possibly inacurate) is that V6 with Getrag has DMF but V8 is SMF unless HSV

I've personally never seen a V8 Getrag DMF
Apparently joshy put a Getrag in his puke green ute
His 'tunnel mod' pics are there
And he never mentioned a DMF

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Posted 05 December 2011 - 09:46 PM

Dual mass flywheels are all about keeping down gear rattle in the gearbox and are certainly not required if you do not want to run them.

I have a nice alloy single mass going in my LX this time round and ditching the big dual mass setup.

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Posted 05 December 2011 - 11:40 PM

no mine does not have a dual mass flywheel which is a bonus... mine needed extensive modifications which can be seen in this thread. http://www.gmh-toran...6970-joshs-ute/

easiest thing to do would be to cut the tunnel from the floor and get a metal fabricator to bend the shape and weld it in... if you want to i can give you the dummy i made for my tunnel

the hydraulic clutches are awesome nice and soft and the getrags change gears like a dream... the dual mass flywheel however keeps road noise down but nothing sound deadener can't fix.

you can get full hydraulic under dash clutch setups from mal woods complete with pedal bolt in just drill a hole for your reservoir and fluid line and your set...

AISAT here in perth make a complete electronic speedo setup to suit torana, kingswood, xy falcon ETC ETC its around $300-$500 depending on how much time is needed basically plug your magnetic drive speedo in on the box and run it to your speedo which will be converted from mechanical to electronic...

yel327, he must of #@$^%& up with his shifter or something... or its not a getrag 290! because mine sits basically in a factory console and its a comfy place.. i only had to trim a couple of mm out of the console so it could get 2 4 and reverse

i am glad i went with the getrag as it's a great box... just clutches can be expensive... i hear exedy will be releasing a HD clutch soon if they haven't already.

mines just got a HSV clutch and it handles it fine... although i haven't really driven my ute to much as it still needs the final wire up

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Posted 06 December 2011 - 08:29 PM

thanks Josh, i had a look at you thread... The tunnels mods are larger than what i thought, did you get an engineers cert without too much trouble?

I still have the donor car which has the hyd clutch setup. I was triing to get awway from an external linkage type setup as i have an aussie 4 speed that gets stuck sometime in the change from 2nd to 3rd and its a pain. The bush in my getrag is shagged, was thinking of getting a billet shifter setup for it if i end up using it anyway.

Can someone enlighten me about the what is a dual mass flywheel? I have some pics of it, just need to post me them up.

In terms of tailshafts, what needs to be done. Use the getrag uni with the elec speedo setup mated to a torana shaft?

I guess my main hesitance to using the getrag is the tunnel mods required rather than the t5 which only needs the shift hole to be cut if using the holden t5.

hmmmm, still unsure....

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 07:38 AM

Other possibilty would be to buy a new Muncie used in conjunction with a UC cable clutch setup. You can buy new Muncies with an overdrive 4th. Or buy a gearvendors overdrive for a Muncie or T10:

http://www.gearvendors.com/cg2wdt.html

These should fit without major tunnel mods, especially the overdrive 4th gear Muncie:

http://www.m-22.com/...21overdrive.htm

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 11:12 AM

Im currently sorting out engineers cert now... All you need is ggetrag earbox front and get v8 unis in the back.. On your gearbox end of your taildhaft will be a cog and a.magnetic reader thats how it reads your speed magnetic drive

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Posted 28 August 2014 - 04:21 AM

DId anyone get pics of the tunnel mods needed to fit the getrag into a  LX


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Posted 08 July 2017 - 04:10 PM

Ive got a bs donor car with a 304 and getrag 5 speed . I really like to see some pics of the tunnel mods if anyone has fitted one into a torana
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