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[UCgazman]

Proof? oh wait, you have none...

[yel327]

Weaver,It should be 250 9/2e dual cast blocks FACT.

 

No, 150. It is there in black and white FACT. Not some made up story with no proof.
 

[crabba67]

250 9/2e blocks................here is an early one.

L283941 White JP374406 dual cast         proof

Cheers 

Edited by crabba67, 13 April 2016 - 04:55 PM.

[UCgazman]

Wow one block... Whats that meant to prove?

[yel327]

250 9/2e blocks................here is an early one.

L283941 White JP374406 dual cast         proof

Cheers 

 

Proof of what? That you do not know what you are talking about? That I can agree on.

 

That is not a 9/2E block as it is not on the 150 list, and L283941 is an 8/74 PSN so must be a fake if its on an XU1. If you mean H283941 then it is too early to be one of the final spec engines as none of these were in cars completed before 22/8/73. End of story, whatever you are trying to cover up or change history for it won't work anymore, end of story.
 

[S pack]

JP374406 is an 8/8E engine not 9/2e.

[S pack]

250 9/2e blocks................here is an early one.

L283941 White JP374406 dual cast         proof

Cheers 

Nope, wrong, incorrect.

[RallyRed]

I do still enjoy this long and winding road of a story....almost hoping some fact will emerge that shows its all for real, rather than a giant G - up.

 

Unfortunately, until a letter/fax/telegram/manual/spare part doco...or ANYTHING official from GMH (like the 150 list doco) floats to the surface,...well for me anyway it just doesnt cut it.

 

Ringing CAMS... is like so what. Unless they provide written doco.

Pics of engines is the same.

Random bits of info means nothing.

 

Sorry guys, I really want to believe you, as these old cars are interesting things and a new bit of the puzzle would be great to come across.

 

Please understand I am genuinely interested, but so far...not convinced at all.

[S pack]

Col, it is all a load of crap. There were no 'special, new' blocks for the 9/2e amendment and they definitely didn't need 250 of them anyway, not even half that number.

[xu2308]

In all the research I have done, I can't find any Manufacturer's that makes a "Special Engine" that is Identified by a Cast Date Code or Casting number.  These Cast marking are for Identification and Quality Control Purposes.  

 

The only reference I can find to any "Special Engine" being Identified by a Casting Date Code and Casting Number is on here, and by only 3 people.  So make of that what you will ......

 

Every other "Special Engine" I can find is Identified by it's Stamped Engine Number..  Even for Holden, They Identified 150 "Special Engines" for Torana by Engine Number's not Cast Date Codes or Casting Number. Even every day run of the mill 202 XU-1 engines are identified by the JP prefex.... The same for the 186 "Special Engines"  they are identified by Stamped Engine Numbers,  and so on, and so on....

 

There has been so much proof put up here,  that disproves your Dual Cast Date and Casting Number theory as the Main Identifier of a JP engine ..  Every claim you have made has NEVER had one piece of proof to back them up..  Unlike the 150 list engines, and in fact the JP cast number you keep putting forward..

 

If you have a Dual Cast Date JP 202 Engine and it is listed by it's Engine Number on the 150 list, well happy days,  you are lucky enough to have joined all the other Single Cast Date JP 202 Engines that made the 150 list as well.....  until proven,  you have nothing more ..  cheers Ian ....

 

Not the only one

The Big X  that was on some 1973  308 V8's the early L34 Engine, they used a X on the block and X on the heads.

 

AL
 

[xu2308]

That name we don't like to speak of or like to Laugh at Richox

He posted up some Photos of the early L34 308 V8 with the X on the Block and Heads with the X, I wonder if they were Dual Cast them 308's

[MARKL]

I love this thread and the previous ones, part soap opera, part conspiracy. I think the 'specialness' of the dual cast dates is BS but this thread is entertaining and I am learning more about Toranas if nothing else. In my view any proof has to come from GMH everything else is just hearsay...even documentation from CAMS is at the end of the day what GMH told them.

 

My 2c is fairly simplistic...that the systems they used on the production line would have been fairly consistent - 173, 186, 202 always tells you the capacity of the engine; Engine number is always a unique identifier that tells you all the important stuff about the motor because it is the number that they use with internal records; Date code always tells you the date & time the block was cast...dual cast? I have no idea why they dual cast some blocks but my bet is the reason super special XU1 engine's were dual cast  would be the same reason other low spec engines got the dual cast treatment.

[XU-1 RAT]

Keith time to make an offer so you can have two re stamped blocks.... turkey.... time running out 20 minute left.

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[XU-1 RAT]

No offers on an re stamp it's about time buyer's listened.........skap you're a keyboard nerd 

[FLY_AGAIN_XU-1]

Genuine....... LOL .............

 

I reckon even G Pack could spot that one, well maybe............

[S pack]

Genuine....... LOL .............

 

I reckon even G Pack could spot that one, well maybe............

Oh yeah they're all restamps just because you say so.

Grow up FFS.

[FLY_AGAIN_XU-1]

Well, come on experts :

 

Time to put your money where your mouths are

 

Genuine or restamp ?

 

Keith,s 4K is on it being genuine   LOL

 

Genuine or restamp ?

[S pack]

Well, come on experts :

 

Time to put your money where your mouths are

 

Genuine or restamp ?

 

Keith,s 4K is on it being genuine   LOL

 

Genuine or restamp ?

I've already pledged $100 towards having Keith's block forensically tested.

 

How about you contact the owner of that JP block and pledge him some funds towards testing to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt it is a re stamp.

[lx308]

I've already pledged $100 towards having Keith's block forensically tested.
 
How about you contact the owner of that JP block and pledge him some funds towards testing to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt it is a re stamp.

Rather put $100 up to see what this block was. http://www.gmh-toran...e-number/page-2