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#26 Bigfella237

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Posted 12 January 2018 - 06:00 PM

Okay so I didn't read all of that pulp but yes, it sounds to me like they're talking about the old ECS certificates no longer being accepted, and cars being required to be re-certified under the newer VSCCS.

 

In particular, this bit:

 

In short, anyone who is attempting to ESTABLISH any  type of registration for a modified vehicle (which also includes right hand drive converted vehicles) are now required to have their vehicle re-certified under the current VSCCS certification scheme

 

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That is hardly "scrapping it altogether"!



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Posted 12 January 2018 - 06:01 PM

That is hardly "scrapping it altogether"!

 

Dunno, this part gives me that impression:

 

The problem is with ICV's is that there has never really been any sort of Factory built safety certification/standards and exhaustive testing process as a completed unit like the factories perform, that the relevant bodies can base their authority on. Our classic cars have at the very least been certified/tested in their original composition that they can base certain findings on.

I feel for them too. many have large amounts of money invested in their projects, and can't do anything about it.

However, from what I am led to believe, there is a person that is attempting to raise enough capital to mount a legal challenge. It will be interesting to see how they go. But I imagine it is going to be a long and hard battle.

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Posted 12 January 2018 - 06:08 PM

Yeah I think Al, whoever he/she is, has gotten hold of the wrong end of the stick. They seem to contradict themselves several times?



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Posted 12 January 2018 - 06:11 PM

Yeah I think Al, whoever he/she is, has gotten hold of the wrong end of the stick. They seem to contradict themselves several times?

 

Maybe, the OP raised the issue as well, could just be a scare going on.

 

Time will tell.

 

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Posted 12 January 2018 - 06:22 PM

I completely agree that it sucks, and anyone being forced to have something re-engineered just because some bureaucrat decides they need to generate more paperwork has the right to be pissed off.

 

Anything that was once approved should be grandfathered in my opinion, I mean you don't see them refusing to register an FJ Holden because it was made before ADRs, or at least requiring the owner to make it comply with current ADRs, which is what they're doing to cars certified under the old ECS now.

 

Anyway, all that has little to do with the Historic Rego Scheme so the current discussion should probably continue in the appropriate thread here:

 

http://www.gmh-toran...old-ecs-scheme/



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Posted 13 January 2018 - 11:44 AM

G'day All

 

When I wanted to put the 186S (genuine) into the wife's Hatch to replace the 202 (and before that it was 4 cyl) I contacted the NRMA and my club's plate registrar and all was OK (186S has dual throat carby, very mild cam, double valve springs & extractor system as standard)

 

When I wanted to put on it 7 inch hotwires I did the same thing and all was OK

 

 

How ever the RMS would interpret that I do not know

 

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Posted 20 January 2018 - 05:22 PM

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Posted 20 January 2018 - 05:39 PM

Well I'll be...

 

That's like a speed limit being raised instead of lowered, it almost never happens!

 

So that's still a little unclear, if I have an ECS certified but unregistered vehicle, can I now establish a registration on it or not?

 

If so, I'd think anyone in that situation should get thee to a registry toot sweet.



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Posted 21 January 2018 - 10:30 AM

Well I'll be...

 

That's like a speed limit being raised instead of lowered, it almost never happens!

 

So that's still a little unclear, if I have an ECS certified but unregistered vehicle, can I now establish a registration on it or not?

 

If so, I'd think anyone in that situation should get thee to a registry toot sweet.

I don't think it is that "unclear".

 

Although it is written in typical Govt. 'legal speak', but the way I read it the previous decision has been reversed & you can now establish new rego on any car which has the old (ESC) engineering certification.

 

The amount of work which Tony O'Donnell & Terry Thompson of the ACMC (& CMC) have done behind the scenes in this area, is to be applauded.

 

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Posted 21 January 2018 - 10:36 AM

*sigh of relief*



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Posted Yesterday, 12:16 AM

Bureaucracy vs Logic = Frustration

 

In the end its obvious that they will push towards removing old cars from roads (it will eventually happen, its just a matter of time). The safety and emissions demands for registration will only get stronger as the years go by. All fossils fuels eventually will be banned from being sold. Many countries already have announced government buy-backs known as "cash for clunkers" before the fossils fuel bans come into place.

 

Best we get out and drive/enjoy our old gals as any petrol head should.

 

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Posted Yesterday, 09:16 AM

In the end its obvious that they will push towards removing old cars from roads

 

This will naturally happen by consumer choice. People buying new cars will decide to go electric as long as electricity bills don't skyrocket and become less economical than liquid fuels but with battery technology improving, people taking advantage of solar panels, etc. that's probably unlikely.

 

Car manufacturing is very damaging to the environment so it's better to use the cars that are around instead of making new ones and retrofitting electric motors will become a thing for those wanting classic iron.

 

 

All fossils fuels eventually will be banned from being sold.

 

I doubt they will be banned but petrol stations will slowly disappear, fossil fuel will become 'exotic' and uneconomical for most to drive a fossil fuelled car regularly. You'll probably have to buy it in drums, 20 litre containers, etc. and/or bring containers to a distributor to fill to take home to fill up your car.

 

 

Best we get out and drive/enjoy our old gals as any petrol head should.

 

:spoton:

 

Do it now as much as you can.

 

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Edited by StephenSLR, Yesterday, 09:18 AM.


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Posted Yesterday, 03:34 PM

Guys,  don't forget how many millions of boats are out there that use fuel. I can't see them all converting to electric in a hurry!!!

Maybe fossil fuel will be around a bit longer than cars that need it.

 

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Posted Yesterday, 03:38 PM

Guys,  don't forget how many millions of boats are out there that use fuel. I can't see them all converting to electric in a hurry!!!

 

Not to mention aeroplanes, back up generators, etc. The power stations that supply electricity run on coal and natural gas too and they'll be running alongside solar and wind for quite some time I imagine.

 

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