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[LX2DR]

On my way along the Ring rd tonight, i saw the camera's being replaced.

The faulty ones that caused the government a lot of heartache were removed recently and are being replaced.

They are putting them on the original positions, so if you knew where they were before, it shouldn't be a problem.

If your not local and coming to Melb, watchout, they take photo's heads up & tails up.

They are on top of overhead signs, behind overhead signs & some are in between bridges, so you can't see them till its too late if you see them at all.

Only a 5% tolerance, so you can be booked for doing only about 3-5 k's over the limit.

[TerrA LX]

sounds like you have more than one camera in a small location, are they allowed to book you more than once at the same time at this location.

[LX2DR]

sounds like you have more than one camera in a small location, are they allowed to book you more than once at the same time at this location.

Each lane is covered, 3 lanes 3 camera's.

In approximately 15-20k's, 4 locations going out & 4 locations coming back.

Wearing my brakes out!

I would like to see the stats on accident numbers before the old ones were shut down and after they were shut down, they have not been operational for about 18 months, would be interesting to see if their were more or less accidents?

For shore they wont let that one out if its tells a story against their idea's.

Revenue raising or safety, always the question

[YiriSS]

if theres a dollar to be made , the govt will make it

[LX2DR]

Speed cameras........love them.........I think they have  lowered the general speeds people travel at.............and if the government gets more out of the leadfoots then they dont have to get as much out of me.

Do you honestly think speed camera revenue stops the Gov from garnishing your pocket?

I don�t think it makes any difference; they didn�t get any revenue from the old cameras for 18 months after they turned them off! And no extra taxes were introduced to cover it, worst thing is they had to pay back $$$$$Millions to people caught by their BS camera's that didn�t work properly, me included

I also don�t think its changed that many habits, except people have found other ways to avoid the things.

Like me, I brought a GPS that warns me of any/all fixed cameras, bloody thing never shuts up their are so many of them.

I also believe, normal honest people who normally do not speed are being caught doing very little wrong because of the tight tolerance.

Like I said, I would love to see the accident stats before and after, too see if it made any difference? Perfect opportunity to compare stats, they have a before and after to compare.

But we wont see any stats if doesn't fit with their agenda.

You must be a politician, if you believe them outright.

As I get of my soapbox.

[RIM-010]

The devastation caused to these Gatso's.

Haha.

How would they light em up? I'm supposing the tyre is jammed on it, covered in petrol and set alight...

RIM

[LX2DR]

Are you sure there speed cameras? coz some highways and main roads that trucks use have camera's that take the rego number of the truck for say in adelaide, and then when they go through to melbourne the camera picks up the number plate again and the computer calculates the distance they have travelled and the time it has taken them, and thats how they determine if they have broken the law, or not.

all the best. azz

Definitely speed cameras! They are replacing the faulty ones.

The new Geelong > Melbourne Rd has also got cameras, but the difference is they do take the average as the Melb > Syd (Hume), Melb > Bris (Newell) and Adel > Melb (Western)

Devil, I drive 40 > 50 thousand K's / yr around Melb for work and been doing it for 24 yr's, I see what the low performance drivers do, they should barely be allowed in a car, just because they don�t drive 3 k's over the limit they avoid the radar, why? Because there are no cameras monitoring there behaviors. Why? Because there is no money in it for the Gov.

It's like any tax, what is easiest to get the maximum.
For example, petrol, beer and lots of potential cars.

What are the facts?
Where are the stats before and after, if there was a huge increase after they were turned off, they would be plastering it all over the media! NOT A F*&^ING WORD, Now, just more cameras!

To be brutally honest and this is only my opinion cameras do F&^k ALL to the road toll, because the cameras are not in the black spots! Mounted on potential victims, the trees!

Look driving is a dangerous habit; anywhere above zero is potential for disaster.

Better driver training in the 1st place would be where I would start.

Min hrs on suburban streets, same for Hwy's, parents & friends should not be allowed to train their kids unless they have sat a course on how to do it properly, most parents are only transferring their bad habits on.

(I did not teach my son, I made him go through a school and then paid for him to do an advanced driver safety course, he is a good driver)

[MRLXSS]

It doesnt matter if Schumacher or a newly licensed driver is at the wheel, the physics of stopping distances and speed remains the same.

So r u saying a Brand new E class Mercedes stops from 100-0 in the same distance as my Hq does?

You could be travelling at 150kmph in a mercedes and stop faster and over a smaller distance than my hq doing 80kmph. and probably even a VT commodore doing 100kmph.

If speed and braking was the real problem, they wouldnt allow old cars on the road. But my car is RW and passes all the tests..

[Peter UC]

The reason I don't like the Goverment's road safety campain is because it does not teach good skilled driving. For an example I'll use one of there wipe off 5 ads the one where the man cleaned up the woman and if went that little bit slower he wouldn't have given her massive injuries. The problem I have with that ad is it was a quiet suburban street with no one coming in the opposite direction. In that situation a good driver would have swerved around the pedestrian, no matter what speed, and continued on their way with no injuries just a shock to the person.

Why don't they teach us good driving habits and ways to avoid collisions then just if you travel slower you will cause less damage, how about avoiding it completely and having no damage? I understand there are times when an accident is unavoidable but in those circumtances you should be travelling slower anyway. Luckily for me, Dad taught me this type of stuff but most people don't get that and driving instructors are only there so you can pass a test.

Interesting to note that in Austria they have set up a complete driver training facility with skid pan etc that every new driver has to complete. After this was implemented they have had a 24% drop in young driver fatalities.

[LX2DR]

From what I understand the new cameras on the Ring road are radar based, not the old piezo strips that they had problems with, So to detect them get a RD!

Not an RD, not legal!.

The GPS is completely legal and works a treat, tells you 800m & 400m out and again just before you get to it.

Like i said though, its worse than a bad back seat passenger, it never shuts up, their are so many fixed cameras out their.

P.S. i am very happy with mine (Mio 269+) & its worth paying more to get the best.
Can be upgraded (Software), 2.5G hard drive.

Heard that some cheaper ones dont work when overcast/rainy, the Mio works rain, hail & shine.

Mio 269+