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[RIM-010]

Next year for Stage 2 Tech, I want to build an Engine Stand or Hoist.

Basically, I need a heap of ideas as to How to build one etc, What materials are used, Different variations, etc etc.

Pics would be great.

I'm not sure which I want to build yet, but leaning towards the Hoist, as I'll probably be doin more engine swaps than rebuilds. Haha.

Or I could do Both... Probably not.

Cheers, RIM

[RIM-010]

Anyone? Just need some pics of Engine Stands and Hoists.

Cheers, RIM

[ls2lxhatch]

I doubt that you will be able to purchase the materials to make either an engine stand or crane for the price that you can buy the chinese imports.

Maybe forum members can suggest something the you can make that is not so commonly available for example.

Ramps that are taller than standard.
Axle stands that bolt onto the hub.

[TerrA LX]

"I doubt that you will be able to purchase the materials to make either an engine stand or crane for the price that you can buy the chinese imports."

^ sad but so very true.

how bout a rotissary.

Edited by ALX76, 08 November 2006 - 01:21 PM.

[Evan]

for my year 12 tech, as seggested above , i made, axle stands and car ramps, and a wine rack, a nut crusher too.
good little projects.

china is very cheap now days, but to get a good start ive seen a lot of engine stands with the base an shopping trolley, and go from there.

pretty big fine if you go stealing shopping torllies thoe.

Evan.

Edited by Evan, 08 November 2006 - 10:31 PM.

[Tiny]

If you were to build an engine hoist it could make a REALLY good project to get top marks on.
The reason i say this is because you could go right into the engineering side of it with your design to prove how it'll be able to lift X Kg at X length and be stable etc.

You might find this kind of research interesting to do and learn ALOT not only about the metal fab side, but the technical engineering side of it.

You could also use innovative features to build it, or something that's a bit out of the ordinary... Maybe using a cable winch to actuate the arm, Or... Putting a cable winch on a puller OVER the arm which would effectively create a CRANE not a hydraluic pivot arm....

Anyway I'd have a good think about the engine crane.. theyre a DAMN handy bit of gear! OH.. and if you do decide to go for the engine stand. DONT copy those cheap nasty fold up chinese heaps of SHITE...

Good luck with it man! I wish our school did metal tach :( not enough of us wanted to do it!

[RIM-010]

Cheers for your help guys.

I've decided that an engine stand is probably the way to go.

I know that it would be easier and cheaper to go out and buy one, but I need to build something. Rotisserie is probably out of the question...

I wanted to build ramps this year, but I wasnt allowed for legal reasons... Something about having people under 1000kg of metal, resting on a year 10 students welds, didnt appeal to the tech teacher.

We have a Forklift, which works bloody well as an engine hoist/crane.

So we can get the engines out, but have nowhere o put them! Except on tyres or whatever, but you cant really work on them very effectively if theyre resting on a tyre.

Tiny, - using a cable winch to actuate the arm, Or... Putting a cable winch on a puller OVER the arm which would effectively create a CRANE not a hydraulic pivot arm... - Is a bloody good idea!

I don't start until next year, so I've still got time to decide. Cheers for your help guys.

RIM

[RIM-010]

Alright, had a chat to Dad last night and decided that we need an engine stand

So I need some measurements I've got a few photo's, but they don't help me all that much. I mainly need measurents and photos etc of where the engine is attached to the stand...

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers, RIM

EDIT - We have plenty of ramps, two full length car pits, a forklift (excellent engine crane), pretty much all we need. Wouldn't mind a Rotisserie, but it would probably never get used...

Edited by RIM-010, 23 November 2006 - 09:09 AM.

[Tiny]

gotto make it adustable RIM, have a look at some other stands if you can, they way they do it is pretty simple!

(sorry but i dont have any pics for ya.)

CHeers

[ToRunYa]

just take a pic of tiny and john either side of a block, they might winge after a couple of hours though lol
STRAIGHT A's!!!
*runs and hides*
...unfit haven't done that for a while lol

[Tiny]

LOL em.. but i think he meeds to do metalwork to get some marks.. and i dont think they want metal stools for the big guys to sit on while they hold the engine up

[RIM-010]

It'll be adjustable.

I've got a few pics, and a bit of an idea, but how is the engine actually attached to the stand?

RIM

Edited by RIM-010, 23 November 2006 - 04:53 PM.

[Tiny]

Bolts through the "arms" into the transmission mounting points.

Make sure that the engine can be centred around the rotation axis so that its easy to flip over especially when the heads and stuff are bolted on.
use REALLY GOOD large castors so that it moves easily, and a brake system on those castors is also a handy thing to stop you chasing the stand around the workshop while your trying to bash in cam bearings and the like.

[RIM-010]

I thought so.

I have an idea re: castors, I'll post a pic up in a minute.

What is the best design for the bottom? 'U' or 'I'?

RIM

[Tiny]

"T"

[RIM-010]

Soo... Like... This?



RIM

[Tiny]

I'd loose the twin front wheels and make sure that the forward facing"leg" has a diagonal gusset brace upward onto the main upright.

Use much larger castors so that they can drive over stuff on the floor

DONT build one that comes apart! theyre too flimsy.

Also instead of using a pin to hold the engine in place, weld a bolt to the hinge and use a "wing bolt" ( bolt with welded finger tab) to lock the engine in place.. that way its infinitely adjustable.

The cranking handle isnt too bad to help to pin the motor.. and also dont forget to make the "legs" deep enough to clear a flywheel fitted to the engine while its on the stand if needed!

[RIM-010]

Cheers Tiny.

It will be all welded, I want this thing to hold my engines safely.

Why would you get rid of the two wheels at the front, Tiny? Surely it would be stronger and better balanced with four wheels...

RIM

[Tiny]

Ive worked on tri wheel stands pretty well exclusively and they're stable and they steer well when your moving the engine around (especially complete engines!) just make the cross legs long enough for stability! also its better when your working around them.. less for your feet to get hooked up around!

Cheers

[RIM-010]

Alright. I thought they'd be unbalanced as all hell.

Our workshop is probably one of the cleaner non-professional ones you will find. It has to be, It's our Oyster Shed. But I see what you mean about castors. I'll use some half decent sized ones.

RIM

[RIM-010]

Somethin' like that?

RIM