Changing front end to commo stud patttern
#1 _youngy_11_
Posted 07 November 2006 - 04:08 PM
As title states whats involved in getting a front commodore stud pattern as I am hopefully going to buy a wreck and get engine,box and driveline out of it???
Youngy
#2 _CHOPPER_
Posted 07 November 2006 - 05:56 PM
Next cheapest would be if you could get hold of a pair of Torana drum brake stub axles. I chased down a pair for $154, so I didn't buy them. You then need the CRS kit to fit the Commodre front brakes.
A better option would be to use HQ disc brake stubs, HQ PBR cast iron calipers and buy undrilled HQ front discs ( DBA 014 U ) and get the centre bore turned down to 69.5 MM and get it studded to Commodore. Problem is, 14" Commodore rims will foul using this conversion. The widest 15" rim ( assuming a +43 offset ) would be a 15x6. Allow about $900.
For a couple of hunfred more, get a Hoppers Stoppers kit. Bigger disc, much better caliper, all bits are new and it will stop better.
dattoman is working on a kit for me that will retail for $3K - $4K, depending on options.
#3 _youngy_11_
Posted 09 November 2006 - 01:29 PM
Ok theres a few options that good, do you think the torana brakes would be enough for a 200 hP ish daily driver?
So with the HQ disc brake stubs setup the widest tyres for the front could only be 6"??
Which is what i was looking at running or maybe a little bigger I don't want it to be too hard to turn.
Ill keep researching
thanks Youngy
#4 _CHOPPER_
Posted 09 November 2006 - 04:10 PM
#5 _youngy_11_
Posted 10 November 2006 - 12:04 PM
#6 _JBird_
Posted 10 November 2006 - 01:24 PM
Torana brakes aren't anything to write home about. Any "modern" car would be able to outbrake a torana. If it was up to me I'd save my penny's and buy a hopper's kit. If you have a couple more pennies and you are going to track your car buy datto's kit.
#7
Posted 10 November 2006 - 01:32 PM
Have you got knowledge in this area Chopper? Dattoman maybe? I seam to remember reading about this ages ago.
#8 _CHOPPER_
Posted 10 November 2006 - 05:09 PM
#9
Posted 10 November 2006 - 06:00 PM
on ebay finish tomorrow..not mine
Edited by FastEHHolden, 10 November 2006 - 06:01 PM.
#10 _CHOPPER_
Posted 10 November 2006 - 09:01 PM
#11 _youngy_11_
Posted 13 November 2006 - 10:50 AM
Also super good brakes aren't always the best as it increases the chance of lock ups.
#12 _JBird_
Posted 13 November 2006 - 12:07 PM
Shit brakes also lock-up too. I don't know what you are getting at. If you had "super good" brakes you could use less brake pressure to stop at an equivalent distance ot "shit brakes at full stomp" ... So I would say it decreases the chance of a lock up. And you would probably only worry about a lock up if you were swerving around something, or the rears lock (in which case you would face the other way quick). I'd rather good brakes because even if they did lock up I would have stopped 20m before the "shit brakes" and not have to swerve.
J
#13 _CHOPPER_
Posted 13 November 2006 - 07:08 PM
"But I can't afford to spend $400 MORE on a set of tyres" I hear.
If you can't stop in time, I can guarentee it will cost you a lot more than $400. Especially if you kill somebody. I still recall very vividly how I hit an 8 year old girl because I couldn't stop in time when doing 20 KPH. There is no such thing as a safe speed.
#14 _youngy_11_
Posted 13 November 2006 - 07:26 PM
OK thats good about the hoppers kits im preety sure i will spend the extra and go with one of those will be less hassel, safer and easier for the engineer to pass the blue slip.
thanks guys
youngy
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