35 replies to this topic

[TerrA LX]

i dont think the shocks are your problem, either the springs are not in properly or you havent got the right springs, if you not sure about the shocks just unbolt them, you will soon see if it is the shock.
when ordering new springs from the MANUFACTURE (not a shop) quote the height from the center of the wheel to the top of the guard you require as all good manufactures make their springs this way.
where did you get your springs?

[TerrA LX]

your new springs are thicker right,
even tho the springs are shorter side by side, if they are thicker they will not compress as far.
find out the installed height measurement (from top of guard to axle/wheel center) from the manufacture and compare this to your car.

[TerrA LX]

you can get them as light or as heavy as you NEED, but speak directly with the manufacture and give them the installed height (top of guard/center of wheel) you require.

[arrimar]

dont pull your axle .just undo at the top,compress and wire down.save time any way possible.

[TerrA LX]

oh and with the shock, you will need one to suit the spring, shock manufactures also make shocks in different heights to suit lowered springs so the spring wont fall out.

[LS1LX]

That thing is high, looks like a 4WD, its because of the 17's, if you put standard 13's on your car will be 2.5" lower then standard but the 17's will raise your car probably 2.5" from standard.

What you need to do is buy the King Low's, off shelf springs with thick coil, then put your wheels on the car, measure how much lower you want the car and get the springs reset to suit, your guaranteed the right height to the nearest mm, no guess work at all, just a tape measure and your done.

Probably cheaper then getting those custom springs you ordered.

Also my LX sat lower in the rear when I had standard KING Lows with 255/40R17's which would be a taller tyre then you have, I think they mucked up your springs.

[LS1LX]

Here's a pic from a few months back, this is with King LOWS off the shelf, I have since lowered it another 25mm in the rear.

Tyres are 255/40R17, tall buggers

Car is now complete and registered so I will post up more pics early next week when I get a chance.

Edited by LS1LX, 16 January 2007 - 08:00 PM.

[smeer]

I have since lowered it another 25mm in the rear.

Out of curiosity, how did you do this?

I have new pedders lows on my LC, and if the rear doesn't settle, i'd like to lower it a bit more at the back.

[LS1LX]

I have since lowered it another 25mm in the rear.

Out of curiosity, how did you do this?

I have new pedders lows on my LC, and if the rear doesn't settle, i'd like to lower it a bit more at the back.

Theres no weight in the rear of a torana, they wont settle any lower, unless you wait 15 years they might sag a little.

Pull them out and get a suspension shop to reset the height. They can go up or down whatever you like, normally around $50 to do, including a fresh squirt of paint.

[LS1LX]

Mine? They are INTRO's - SHOW WHEELS. 17x 7 and 17x8's

I got them because they were a line INTRO Wheels was going to drop, there were 5 sets of centres left in the USA (2 piece billets), custom built offset to suit. I was just sick of seeing FR Simmons on every torana, even though the Simmons look hot there getting boring and repetitive so I got these as I know there probably the only set in the country and pretty much no other torana is wearing them.

[LS1LX]

Mine Chia?
They're speedy - holotype r's. 17x7 on the rear, 16x6's up front... i think.

How do suspension shops reset springs, is it just cutting, then checking them to make sure they're still safe?
I'm thinking now that if i get my springs reset to be another.. 3" lower? i'll measure it tomorrow and see.

I'd rather have heavy duty springs on the rear, instead of camira spring (too soft and will no doubt bottom out around the hills here), plus i want the car to corner well.

If i'm able to get them reset i'll purchase some lowered shocks so the springs won't fall out, sounds like a have a new plan of attack, let's hope this one works.

A suspension shop will/should never cut a spring, when they set a spring to raise height they stretch the spring, to lower height they compres the spring, you still have locators on top and bottom.

Are you running bump stops on the diff and do you have the insulators on the top of the springs, if so yes to both there is no way in the world your springs can fall out, especially if the car is lowered. Check you have installed everything correctly, can you rotate the springs when the car is on the ground? If so there is no load on the springs as something is bottoming out first.

[TerrA LX]

Are you running bump stops on the diff and do you have the insulators on the top of the springs, if so yes to both there is no way in the world your springs can fall out, especially if the car is lowered. Check you have installed everything correctly, can you rotate the springs when the car is on the ground? If so there is no load on the springs as something is bottoming out first.

any lowered spring will fall out (possibly) with a full length shock on full extended suspension travel

[Heath]

He just told you!

[knoath]

Where are you lxsl76 ?
If you're in Melb, check out Brown's Springworks in Thomastown (North Subs)...They'll be re-setting my springs once my wheels are on the car...They simply measure from centre of wheel to lip of the guard (as previously stated) and make the spring to whatever height you're after, legally.

Will cost me $280 for all 4 springs, removed, reset and fitted.
Like new.

Cheers, good luck.

[LS1LX]

I like your wheels lxsl76 but I am into the billet look at the moment and would like to know wht your wheels are LS1LX ?

Last reply on page 1 I listed them.

[LS1LX]

lxsl the insulators are a rubber that sit on the top of the spring and act as a locator as well, they will raise your car another 1/2" if installed.

[ls2lxhatch]

A 215/40/17 has a diameter of approximately 604mm. The original CR70H13 tyre has a diameter of approximately 617mm. Therefore your 215/40/17 is actually smaller and should have 6mm more clearance between the guard and the tyre.

A 255/40/17 has a diameter of approximately 636mm.

It sounds like the springs you have are either installed incorrectly or manufactured incorrectly. I would recheck the springs are seated correctly at the top of the tower where the rubber insulator is located.

If the ride height is still wrong then I would return the springs and follow LS1LX advice. Get standard lowered springs, let them settle and work from there. Compressing the spring to reduce its height (reset to lower) will not affect its ability to travel to the bumpstop.

Edited by AndyCullen, 17 January 2007 - 10:15 AM.