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#1 _lx304hatch_

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Posted 22 February 2007 - 04:23 PM

few quick questions about my LX SLR5000 want to make it as close to the way it rolled out the factory as possible, im nearly ready to paint the engine bay should that be black or red the same colour as the car ?? were some red and some black and is there a way i can tell on my vin ? the cars 4/76

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Posted 22 February 2007 - 04:46 PM

Hi

I am at the same stage with my 74 LH and also wouls like to know which is the correct colour.

Saying this,I previously posted my paint coad on this site and was told it was Casino Blue. the colour name was correct, but the picture posted by a user was the wrong colour in the picture.

So how do we know if the info we are getting is correct?

I would do some reserch on your own.

Ask an old bloke they know every thing.

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Posted 22 February 2007 - 04:48 PM

I believe all LH are black
And mid way thru LX they went to body colour

One of the gurus' like Howard , Red or Dr Terry will know the exact dates

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Posted 22 February 2007 - 07:44 PM

^ as above, LH Matt Black (pain in the ass to clean, most just go gloss black), LX was body colour, although early ones, think only early 76 had matt black, but then went body colour. All the LX 5000's I've seen have body colour engine bay.

Edited by Yella SLuR, 22 February 2007 - 07:45 PM.


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Posted 23 February 2007 - 11:25 AM

Correct, all LH's had black engine bays and to the best of my knowledge, and from what I have seen, 1st and 2nd month LX's also had black engine bays (very early). I think from March onwards they were colour coded..

Hope this helps.

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Posted 23 February 2007 - 11:51 AM

bye the way, Casino blue picture;

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Posted 23 February 2007 - 11:51 AM

L8 is Feb 1976 build and it had the satin black engine bay.

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Posted 23 February 2007 - 12:44 PM

Correct, all LH's had black engine bays and to the best of my knowledge, and from what I have seen, 1st and 2nd month LX's also had black engine bays (very early). I think from March onwards they were colour coded..

Hope this helps.

My first LX SLR was a 7month 76 and it also had a black engine bay, I thought from 77 they started with the body colour engine bays???

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Posted 23 February 2007 - 12:44 PM

BullitljV8 and i just painted both the engine and engine bay in my l32 LH SL. We used the black paint called GMH black in the bay area. Purchased it through Sprints here in Adelaide and comes in 1Lt tins.

It turned out a treat and ill post some pics soon :spoton:

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Posted 23 February 2007 - 02:06 PM

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I can't be 100% sure on the change over but my 11/76 has a colour coded engine bay and my 2/76 has a black engine bay. The early ones carried over from the LH and included LH things such as the arched type fan gaurd instead of the flat step up style, different console inserts, gearshift ball etc. I have paid particular attention to this point at car shows and have only ever seen very early 76 models with a black engine bay. By this I mean 1/2 month 76. Every other car that I have seen from 3rd month on was colour coded. This doesn't mean that yours didn't have the black engine bay. As you can appreciate engine bays get painted from time to time..It is not vey common to see a black engine bay in an LX.

It would be good to know for sure, I am going on my observations. Someone may be able to give a definitive answer.

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Posted 23 February 2007 - 06:23 PM

My old June 76 Papaya SS 5.0 had the black engine bay. I have seen late 76 8 Cylinder models at a time when the 6 cylinder models had painted bays. I think there was a phase in period. Perhaps starting around the production of the Sunbird? Build dates and compliance dates are also two different things. As previously suggested look for tell tale signs or post some pics of the engine bay.

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Posted 23 February 2007 - 10:28 PM

My Jan 76 LXSLR5000 had a black engine bay. It will be body colour shortly as I prefer it that way. My July 76 SS5000 has a colour coded engine bay from the factory..Going by the other posts the change over could be June/July.

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Posted 24 February 2007 - 01:07 PM

Hi Redslur

I have just had the paint mixed by an old school paint shop straight from the dulon book. the colour of the torri in the pic is not Casino Blue according to the old bloke behind the counter.
I know this because when I questioned him on the colour he through the dulon book at me. As I have blasted the whole car I have no other way of seeing the colour, so Just to make sure I went to an old sill that I removed from the car and rubbed it back to the red oxide primer low and behold it was the same color as the paint in the 4ltr tin from book throwing old bloke.

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Here are the codes again

Trim-1904-19X
Paint -568-17297

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Edited by My74LH, 24 February 2007 - 01:07 PM.


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Posted 24 February 2007 - 01:12 PM

NEVER base a colour choice from a pic on a computer...

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Posted 24 February 2007 - 01:53 PM

My74LH

I didn't think you wouldn't agree, no worries. The colour is Casino blue, the picture doesn't do it justice. The only other colour in the LH range anything like it is Azure blue which is lighter and brighter. I have attached a link to a picture of a HQ factory coded Casino blue.

The colour is very like the one in the picture. I'm with Rim, the magazine picture on computer doesn't give you a real good idea. A Holden paint chart is your best bet. I have a copy of one from of e-bay and it looks to be the correct one. Another good indication is the blue used on the Mandarin G-paks which is also Casino blue..

As far as the engine bay colour goes, it maybe a mid year thing, just never seen it in the flesh myself. I don't doubt those who have had them with black engine bays 6/7 month. Very similar to the under bonnet colours, they were a bit of a lottery..
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Posted 24 February 2007 - 03:18 PM

From memory the engine bay cut-off date was July 1976. Dr. Terry will know the exact month.

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Posted 24 February 2007 - 04:44 PM

Hi Yella SLuR

the colour in your pic looks a bit closer but still not dark enough.

any how i will post the pics when its done.

Dose anyone know my trim colours 1904-19X

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Posted 25 February 2007 - 07:00 AM

1904 is Casino Blue 19X is Black Long Grain Vinyl with Cloth insert. Insert could be 1 of 3 types i have seen used with Black. There is know way of knowing from the tag which insert was used.

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Posted 25 February 2007 - 07:09 AM

What the

Now im confused if 1904 is casino blue than what is Paint 568-17297 :cry:

Im thinking of using golf ball rather that cloth i think all slr"s should have had this trim any comments?


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Posted 25 February 2007 - 08:15 AM

1904 is the interior shade code for Casino Blue. It is included in the trim line because it depicts the colour seen on the painted surfaces on some models. For example an S model LH or LX had the paint on the tops of the interior doors exposed.
568-17297 is the Dulon shade code used by GMH for the exterior.

Edited by Toranavista, 25 February 2007 - 08:16 AM.


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Posted 25 February 2007 - 08:44 AM

also is this the inside that will suit my trim code ? my slr5000 has had lots of its stock gear sold off :S

http://cgi.ebay.com....1QQcmdZViewItem

my trim code
1890-18v

pls let me know fellas

also my slr5000 is 4/76 so going by this ill be looking at a black engine bay then fellas :S

Edited by lx304hatch, 25 February 2007 - 08:46 AM.


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Posted 25 February 2007 - 07:00 PM

your V is for vinyl,so strictly speaking those arent for you as they have cloth inserts.

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Posted 25 February 2007 - 09:06 PM

???? What'd I do now? Think you got your yella's and red's mixed up, easily done.

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Posted 26 February 2007 - 07:12 AM

Lx304hatch

You have an early Mandarin LX 5000 with slate grey (which is more black to look at) seats with grey golf ball inserts. Both mine are 18X cloth inserts. Going by what has been said, you would have had a black engine bay. I don't think it really matters too much. Can you tell what the original colour was?

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Posted 26 February 2007 - 07:22 AM

na cant tell the cars been painted a few times it looks to be black but i realy couldnt tell but going by wat you guys have writen ill go with the black, if any one has any seats and door trims for sale let me know even if they are to suit retrim




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