build me a performance engine
#1 _bon_scott_
Posted 14 November 2005 - 05:17 PM
what are some cheap and easy things i can do to the engine to make it quicker?
my mates dad said to put on the 2 barrel stromberg (i think its stromberg) of the 186S and extractors, then i was thinking roller rockers and a bigger camshaft (most likely xu1).
also should i get the alloy timing gear stuff or leave it?
cheers
bon
#2
Posted 14 November 2005 - 06:02 PM
if its a red sixm you can put together a nice motor for not much coin at all....carby, cam and a hot head and extractors and your on the right path..
Btw i thoguht u had died 25 years ago!, its good to see your still alive, tell that Brian Johnson dickhead to piss off....your music was soo much better
#3 _redlh_
Posted 14 November 2005 - 06:21 PM
My question is how much car/engine building background you have? If the answer is not much, then I suggest you pick up some basic engine building books and get a feel for what's required in a standard rebuild. Then you can look at some performance build-up publications with a better understanding of what you want versus what you can afford.
Having said that, anything that lets the engine breathe better will be an improvement. Bigger carbies, camshafts, head porting, extractors and a bigger exhaust system are relatively cheap and simple ways to increase performance.
Then you can start looking at gearing options with transmissions, diffs and wheel/tyre combinations.
Of course, making it go quicker means you have consider making it stop as well and that means brake improvements such as playing with pad compounds, calliper and rotor upgrades.
Hope this helps.
#4
Posted 14 November 2005 - 06:23 PM
coz you can always pick up warm 6 bangers out of the trader fairly cheep.
Trust me after you actuly pick up a car you will be overwelmed with lil things that could be done.... that leads into Biger things..... it never ends
regards.
james
#5
Posted 14 November 2005 - 06:57 PM
Sound adviceid buy the car first then worrie about what your goin' to do to the engine ,
#6 _Yella SLuR_
Posted 14 November 2005 - 07:14 PM
Agree with the above, carbie, heads, exhaust, and hi-performance air filter. For more top end response, stick on some thermo fans.
Good luck with your search, I'd be focussing on just getting the car first, the rest you can worry about when your ready.
#7 _QIKSLR_
Posted 14 November 2005 - 07:39 PM
Edit: Yella it probably is safe to assume that he will be driving around at 5000rpm all day
Edited by QIKSLR, 14 November 2005 - 07:40 PM.
#8 _draglc_
Posted 14 November 2005 - 08:19 PM
#9 _bon_scott_
Posted 15 November 2005 - 12:29 AM
i know i should get the car first, but i'll have some spare $$$ so i thought i'd get a few estimates/opinions on stuff.
i'll have approx $1000 to do stuff so is there anything else besides the good timing gear/metal dizzy that is a must have?
my engine building knowledge is limited to mostly small two stroke race bike motors and a few small four stroke mower engines, however i do know a lot of the theory stuff behind engines (shitty non practical auto course )
what exactly was the 186S engine? was i right about the 2 barrel stromberg and extractors? is there anything else different about it.
#10 _[BOTTLEDUP]_
Posted 15 November 2005 - 01:12 AM
Then fit a two barrel manifold and carby, not just an adaptor plate onto the std single barrel manifold. Either a WW Stromberg if you can find one in good nick or alternatively a Weber off a 250 Falcon.
Depending on the driving you do, I'd keep the engine fan, but fit a late model Commo (ie VH,VK) unit along with the radiator shroud.
From there later on you can do a cam swap, but I'd determine the condition of the engine first, no point putting a new cam into a clapped out bunky engine.
#11 _Chaotic_
Posted 15 November 2005 - 09:46 AM
I noticed bit of a difference going from standard exhaust to extractors with 2 1/4 exhaust, and running a 350 holley at the moment but in time might look at getting rid of the fuel bucket.
#12 _LX406_
Posted 15 November 2005 - 11:10 AM
#13
Posted 15 November 2005 - 11:40 AM
hehe now where was that site where they stuffed bike engines in things like gemini'smy engine building knowledge is limited to mostly small two stroke race bike motors and a few small four stroke mower engines, however i do know a lot of the theory stuff behind engines (shitty non practical auto course )
On the slight subject of bikes anyone go to the VIC Vs. NSW titles last weekend? want to know what exactly happened to ashley, were all still a bit cut up by it
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