hey right now I have a 4 speed I know its not a m21 I think its an M26? but I am looking at an up grade to a celica or supra box any ideas on what better or what year box to go for, I head that certain years were better but donot know which ones, also what are the 5 speed vk boxes like ? ( it going behind a worked 186)
cheers again
antony
picking a gearbox
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Posted 01 February 2006 - 04:48 PM
vh/vk 5 speed boxes = poo i know this i have one atm it goes ok behind a stock 173 but i doubt it will last much longer
as for celica/supras ill let the gurus help you out there
as for celica/supras ill let the gurus help you out there
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Posted 01 February 2006 - 09:07 PM
The UC came out with a MC6 4 speed.
It also had a M20 4 speed.
The supra box is better than the celica box in my opinion.
It also had a M20 4 speed.
The supra box is better than the celica box in my opinion.
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Posted 02 February 2006 - 01:04 AM
I think I have a supra box lined up right now just working on the price the guy owes me for bring parts back from the states for his 460 cui big block in his falcon
so I will see what happens any diifernce on the bell housings between them
antony
so I will see what happens any diifernce on the bell housings between them
antony
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Posted 02 February 2006 - 02:34 PM
bell housings are totally different, get the supra box, as far as price go its bugger all dearer but its a stronger box than the celica ....
get the box with the 3.25:1 first gear (i think thats the number) the other option is like 3.50:1 its stupid in first!
get the box with the 3.25:1 first gear (i think thats the number) the other option is like 3.50:1 its stupid in first!
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Posted 02 February 2006 - 04:04 PM
hey I did some looking and found out about 3 different types of supra boxes I will most likely get the w57
thought this was interesting
gear ratios
W55 1st 3.57:1 2nd 2.06:1 3rd 1.38:1 5th 0.85:1
W57 1st 3.28:1 2nd 1.89:1 3rd 1.27:1 5th 0.85:1
W59 1st 3.95:1 2nd 2.14:1 3rd 1.27:1 5th 0.85:1
anyway as I said The one I am planning to buy is a 57 alloy box, what do you guys think, good choice or not
cheers for the input antony
thought this was interesting
gear ratios
W55 1st 3.57:1 2nd 2.06:1 3rd 1.38:1 5th 0.85:1
W57 1st 3.28:1 2nd 1.89:1 3rd 1.27:1 5th 0.85:1
W59 1st 3.95:1 2nd 2.14:1 3rd 1.27:1 5th 0.85:1
anyway as I said The one I am planning to buy is a 57 alloy box, what do you guys think, good choice or not
cheers for the input antony
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Posted 03 February 2006 - 12:22 PM
hey I know that supras are abetter box but what do you guys know about the older ceilca boxs ie the T3 box, just interested
antony
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Posted 03 February 2006 - 01:18 PM
ive got a celica 5 speed thats bolted up to a blue 173 that i pulled out of a commodore but i dont know what the condition is like and i probably wouldnt trust it behind a worked 186.
Although if the celica bellhousing bolts onto a supra box then i might have something that you will be after!
Although if the celica bellhousing bolts onto a supra box then i might have something that you will be after!
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Posted 03 February 2006 - 02:56 PM
w57 would be my choice too purely for the drivability of the gear ratios.hey I did some looking and found out about 3 different types of supra boxes I will most likely get the w57
thought this was interesting
gear ratios
W55 1st 3.57:1 2nd 2.06:1 3rd 1.38:1 5th 0.85:1
W57 1st 3.28:1 2nd 1.89:1 3rd 1.27:1 5th 0.85:1
W59 1st 3.95:1 2nd 2.14:1 3rd 1.27:1 5th 0.85:1
anyway as I said The one I am planning to buy is a 57 alloy box, what do you guys think, good choice or not
cheers for the input antony
celica boxes are ok, but for the extra you pay for a supra to get a stronger box its worth it ....
im onto my second box (first one died in my burn days) since i stopped doing burnouts though i haven't had a drama with it, thats with a 202 putting about 170hp through it.
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Posted 03 February 2006 - 03:37 PM
There are also W58 & R154 supra boxes with the following ratios:
W57 1st 3.28:1 2nd 1.89:1 3rd 1.27:1 5th 0.78:1
The R154 being a bigger meaner version and hence bigger $$$.
M@
W57 1st 3.28:1 2nd 1.89:1 3rd 1.27:1 5th 0.78:1
The R154 being a bigger meaner version and hence bigger $$$.
M@
Edited by Toranamat69, 03 February 2006 - 03:38 PM.
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Posted 03 February 2006 - 04:14 PM
Damn that should say W58 above !!! 
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Posted 03 February 2006 - 10:38 PM
i was told by a jap importer the R154 is the strongest
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Posted 04 February 2006 - 11:28 AM
Hi,
The R154 is reported to be the strongest, as was bolted to a twin turbo supra,
is also the most expensive,
I have a w57 that is going into a LX behind a 253,
this is the 2nd one i have done,
previous was a MG Monaro,
Ran nice and was smooth and good highway economy
I ran a w57 and a 3.08 diff,
Ran at 2250rpm at 100kph.
If you are running a red 186,
any of the w55 to w58 would be a nice box to use,
depends on the ratios,
Have a look here for ratio specs
http://www.oldholden...eed_gear_ratios
or here, these guys sell gearboxes,
I am not endorsing this place, is just an example of an importer.
http://www.japparts..../gearboxes.html
Or keep an eye out on Ebay.
Cheers
Chris.
The R154 is reported to be the strongest, as was bolted to a twin turbo supra,
is also the most expensive,
I have a w57 that is going into a LX behind a 253,
this is the 2nd one i have done,
previous was a MG Monaro,
Ran nice and was smooth and good highway economy
I ran a w57 and a 3.08 diff,
Ran at 2250rpm at 100kph.
If you are running a red 186,
any of the w55 to w58 would be a nice box to use,
depends on the ratios,
Have a look here for ratio specs
http://www.oldholden...eed_gear_ratios
or here, these guys sell gearboxes,
I am not endorsing this place, is just an example of an importer.
http://www.japparts..../gearboxes.html
Or keep an eye out on Ebay.
Cheers
Chris.
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Posted 14 February 2006 - 04:25 AM
What about the conversions using the T5 which came out behind older falcon sixes. EA onwards I think. I remember reading good things but I might be wrong
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Posted 14 February 2006 - 04:44 PM
hey i've got a supra box from a mild 186, how do i tell which one it is..
..doesn't really matter i guess, i'm not gonna use it. But i'd like to know what I'm tryin to sell ppl.
Nk
..doesn't really matter i guess, i'm not gonna use it. But i'd like to know what I'm tryin to sell ppl.
Nk
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