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#1 MRLXSS

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Posted 06 February 2006 - 08:35 AM

Hey Guys,
I Picked up my New 253 Stroker on the weekend! Im just wondering what sought of things these Stroker Engines do. i Dont know much about the engine as of yet, im getting all the reciepts off the guy soon, so i wil read through it then and work it out. Here is wat i know

Stroked to about 290Ci
Elec Dizzy Curbed to the cam,
Elderbrock Torker Manifold
Balanced and Blueprinted
I guess its had a little bit of Headwork Done aswell.

The stories ive heard from this engine is its blown 2 saginaws and an axle in a 9 inch, so im guessing it has some grunt, i drove the engine once a few months ago and i would say it pulls harder than mild 308's

What i really want to know is, Wat strengths and weaknesses to Strokers have? Do they get good Top and Bottom End? Rev Range? Do they Sound Different? I have never really looked into strokers so all is new to me!

I painted the motor Yesterday so once i get home ill take so pics and put them up... (It just looks like a standard V8 from the outside anyway lol)

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Posted 06 February 2006 - 08:44 AM

They have more torque...everywhere

you have to liken it to a push bike...if the pedals are close to the centre of the front sprocket its hard to get it up and running....but if they are further away you can stand up and really push hard to get it going.

The downside of strokers is that they don't rev as hard as a comparable short stroke engine and they have increased wear due to the angle the conrod pushes the piston.

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Posted 06 February 2006 - 10:42 AM

I love my stroker (308-336ci), it just felt to have so much more grunt than most 308s. It has soo much low down torque. Even with 2.78 gears and an M21 it was nuts. Completely undrivable in the wet.

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Posted 06 February 2006 - 11:06 AM

i had a mate who brought a 336 stroker for his brock, was so stoked over it kept showing the engine reciept to everyone, had a gork at the numbers, looked at the block, took it for a run, and commented... "aint that engine!"
he finally believed me when it died and we done the post mortem, poor old tiered 308 :)
got so duped lol

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Posted 06 February 2006 - 11:11 AM

i had a mate who brought a 336 stroker for his brock, was so stoked over it kept showing the engine reciept to everyone, had a gork at the numbers, looked at the block, took it for a run, and commented... "aint that engine!"
he finally believed me when it died and we done the post mortem, poor old tiered 308 :)
got so duped lol

haha Dont think i have to worry about that, i drove this 253 and it would be chirpin 3rd gear with a 2.78 Diff! it was crazy! My Current engine its hard enough to chirp 2nd haha! I just cant wait to put it in the Hatch and blow away my mates! haha (the main reason i want to change the engine is my mate beat me in his pretty hot 253 Hatch and another mate beat me in a 2.6lt 78 Lancer! Now i can safely say they wont beat me again for a while! :rockon:

MMMMMM Torque! nothing beats that feeling of power right through the revs! LOVE IT!

Pity its been balanced and blue printed, i loved the feel of the lumpy car shaking me around at idle! haha the sacrifices for speed!

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Posted 06 February 2006 - 03:55 PM

I love my 333 stroker, like has been said, better torque than standard stroke. My only regret is that it isn't a 355 :spoton:

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Posted 06 February 2006 - 08:08 PM

the blueprinting and balancing doesnt affect the idle the camshaft does that depending on what grind cam it has

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Posted 06 February 2006 - 08:49 PM

Thats right, you definatly want it balanced and blueprinted. You can still have a rough as bguck cam.

Yeh when I bought my motor I was told it was a stroker but I didn't know what to beleive, I could only go off the top end (pulled the heads off ect). It had everything else the guy claimed it did. I pulled the sump and saw holden stamped on the crank and thought I'd been ripped. I later found out that its an offset ground crank. Which is were they modify a standard crank to acheive the stroke increase. I've since pulled the crank out and you can see that its been modified; balance holes and bits chopped off and what not. Only downside is it wouldn't be as strong as a harrop crank etc.

Plus side is that I guess with the smaller strokers (33*), they don't have the same grunt as a 383 or 355, but you still gain a massive torque increase and don't lose as many revs.

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Posted 06 February 2006 - 09:16 PM

you guys need to go for a drive in a worked big block, no 253 will ever come close in the TQ department.

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Posted 06 February 2006 - 09:46 PM

yes but thats hard to get street registered in a torry...

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Posted 06 February 2006 - 09:48 PM

Hard but not impossible. Just ask Howard.

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Posted 06 February 2006 - 10:11 PM

last time i checked it aint street registered anymore....

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Posted 06 February 2006 - 10:23 PM

But it was registered with the BBC.

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Posted 06 February 2006 - 10:41 PM

you guys need to go for a drive in a worked big block, no 253 will ever come close in the TQ department.

Nor will any 304, 308,355,383, unless its supercharged!!!

Big block snot!!!!! once you've tried it you will never go back!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :spoton: :spoton: :spoton: :spoton:

pity its so hard to register one in a torry though.

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Posted 07 February 2006 - 05:54 AM

you guys need to go for a drive in a worked big block, no 253 will ever come close in the TQ department.

But you dont get them for $400

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Posted 07 February 2006 - 04:23 PM

Well I'm coming from a mild 202 to amped 333 so its totally unreal for me at the moment. Mind you, I've had a taste of what is possible and am already HP hungry and was looking wistfully at BB's in the trading post on the weekend "sigh"...

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Posted 13 February 2006 - 09:40 PM

got a 388 sbc that will take on most bbc's got around 600 hp at da fly wheel soon to be back on da road

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Posted 13 February 2006 - 10:46 PM

Got any details for us HDT-SLR? What sort of stroker is your 388? By my calcs, a 60thou over 350 with the 3.75" crank would make 388. I'm currently rebuilding my 383 to 385 sbc. Would be interested to hear about yours and how you're making 600HP (sounds ace!)

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Posted 14 February 2006 - 07:42 AM

I've since pulled the crank out and you can see that its been modified; balance holes and bits chopped off and what not. Only downside is it wouldn't be as strong as a harrop crank etc.

Plus side is that I guess with the smaller strokers (33*), they don't have the same grunt as a 383 or 355, but you still gain a massive torque increase and don't lose as many revs.

should be just as strong to a point,
unless you are going forthe really big horses

plus the offset ground cranks are actually lighter in weight than the harrop and come cranks

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Posted 18 February 2006 - 11:59 PM

Iv been in a few 355 strokers and they were wild, i also been in a 600HP 383 HQ that does 10s (WOW). But the torque my mates BBC HQ UTE had was amazing, was only a mild motor with small port heads but it would hold you back in the seat from 0 to 140MPH and then he would floor it and start again...

No way could any motor give you the same sensation that a BB does... Lazy HP..

John

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Posted 19 February 2006 - 12:08 AM

And that's despite the extra 300 pounds of cast iron between the front wheels.

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Posted 19 February 2006 - 01:26 PM

A stoker 253 will be fun in a streeter, but to build it i doubt it would cost $400.

My small block 406 has 500 ft/lbs at 4000 rpm. That engine fits into any engine bay and can be registered easy and will pull like a freight train, burnouts in any gear. just look at my avatar. Thats naturally aspirated using a foot brake launch, (just flooring it.)
You dont always need a big block, but I will still have one!! One day!

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Posted 19 February 2006 - 01:37 PM

How easy did the 406 SB fit into the bay of your LX? Are they something like a 350, narrower than the 308? It would be awesome to slot one of those into my Torrie but I think the new draft legislation for vehicle modification will put pay to those sort of things, isn't it no engine of greater than 20% weight and power than the original or something like that. Would need a heap of certs to be able to get it through nowadays I reckon.

I can keep dreaming I will do it one day tho!! 500ft/lb @ 4000rpm is what I'm talking about :spoton:

Cheers,

Edited by Liam, 19 February 2006 - 01:38 PM.


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Posted 19 February 2006 - 05:14 PM

400 is same size as 350.

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Posted 19 February 2006 - 06:40 PM

LX406 i knowe what your saying mate, as i said iv been in a 10s HQ 383 SBC and fark does that car have pulling power.. But like you said you dont need a BB but You would have one...

The HQ im talking about has run many times at Calder, has custom plates SEXCSS..

John




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