Well got the money now and want to buy a Mig, Went to BOC today and they had a 190amp gas mig for sale for $1740 :(
I thought they were abit cheaper... was hoping to only spend around $1200 on the actual welder... is that the price I should expect tho?
is 190 amp what I should be after? and is there anything else i should be after specifically keeping in mind ill jus be working on cars and thickest thing i would weld would be like 10mm plate...
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Posted 10 January 2008 - 10:06 PM
Mine is a "CIGWELD" Transmig 130 Twin.
It was about $700 7yrs ago from Bunnings.
"C.I.G" is the former name of B.O.C.
Perhaps the Chinese imports have put B.O.C out of the market for small migs?
Did you ask at the counter?
Mine welds up to 12mm. I assume the "130" is amps?
It was about $700 7yrs ago from Bunnings.
"C.I.G" is the former name of B.O.C.
Perhaps the Chinese imports have put B.O.C out of the market for small migs?
Did you ask at the counter?
Mine welds up to 12mm. I assume the "130" is amps?
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Posted 10 January 2008 - 10:15 PM
190 amps should be more then adeqaute for cars and even 10mm plate welding. i have recently (within the last 12months) bought a weldmatic (pretty sure its a 150amp from memory...) mig welder and so far it hasnt missed a heart beat! welded anything i like with it and nothing has any problem.
hope that info helps
hope that info helps
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Posted 10 January 2008 - 10:18 PM
Shop around viper,i dont know where your located but i bought my CIG transmig 190 a few years back for $1050 from bakers in blacktown..mind you that was trade price.Do your homework & try to get the best deal for a quality welder..dont just buy the first thing you see..maybe if you give us a location we can give you some places to try..maybe someone from the forum can look after you & get trade on something decent as well.
Personally for a good all round mig try to get something around 200amps that way you can nicely weld thick material as well as panel steel.some smaller welders may do the job ok on light stuff..but if you want to do some thick material it will struggle.
Good luck & im sure someone can help out.
Personally for a good all round mig try to get something around 200amps that way you can nicely weld thick material as well as panel steel.some smaller welders may do the job ok on light stuff..but if you want to do some thick material it will struggle.
Good luck & im sure someone can help out.
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Posted 10 January 2008 - 10:27 PM
BOC is expensive.Well got the money now and want to buy a Mig, Went to BOC today and they had a 190amp gas mig for sale for $1740 :(
I thought they were abit cheaper... was hoping to only spend around $1200 on the actual welder... is that the price I should expect tho?
is 190 amp what I should be after? and is there anything else i should be after specifically keeping in mind ill jus be working on cars and thickest thing i would weld would be like 10mm plate...
a WIA Welder would be perfect, made in Australia.
CIGWELD are pretty good also, some machines are Chinese, some of the AC/DC Tig Welders are made in Japan.
but id go for a WIA or Miller.
WIA Welders,
Weldmatic 8mm
Weldmatic 10mm
smaller range..
Weldmatic 150
Weldmatic 175
either one of those machines would be quite adequate,
the links will give you a description of what the welder is all about and what it can do.
what state are you from?
hope this helps.
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Posted 10 January 2008 - 10:33 PM
Sorry guys I thought I had my location in signature... seems to of gone missing
But yea im in Perth WA...
The WIA range looks like the go... goto find a supplier in perth...
MicksGTR was gonna hook me up but I havnt been able to get in contact with him
But yea im in Perth WA...
The WIA range looks like the go... goto find a supplier in perth...
MicksGTR was gonna hook me up but I havnt been able to get in contact with him
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Posted 10 January 2008 - 10:40 PM
Sorry guys I thought I had my location in signature... seems to of gone missing
But yea im in Perth WA...
The WIA range looks like the go... goto find a supplier in perth...
MicksGTR was gonna hook me up but I havnt been able to get in contact with him
check out the
Stockist Locator
it may help you out.
dad has a an older Weldmatic 355, hasn't missed a beat.
they are all pretty solid machines.
the 355 is a 3-Phase machine which has a little bit more grunt.
i am saving for another machine for myself an AC/DC Miller Tig,
give the locator a whirl
and let us all know how you go!
hope this helps
GMH.
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Posted 11 January 2008 - 10:24 AM
Cheers, I fired off a bunch of e-mails asking the price of the WIA Weldmatic 215 will see what they say...
Everyone reakon this would be a good welder for what I need?
Everyone reakon this would be a good welder for what I need?
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Posted 11 January 2008 - 10:26 AM
OH just noticed it says "supply plug 15amps"
Does this mean I would need to get a 15amp outlet fitted to my house?
Does this mean I would need to get a 15amp outlet fitted to my house?
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Posted 11 January 2008 - 10:45 AM
The plug on the welder is for a 15 amp outlet, wide earth pin. This will not fit into a regular 10 amp outlet. My solution was to buy a 15 amp female plug and fit it to a 10 amp extension lead. The cord on the welder is probably too short anyway. Otherwise you can cut down the earth pin to fit into a 10 amp outlet.
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Posted 11 January 2008 - 11:59 AM
I went halves with a mate and we bought a Cigweld 200, hasn't missed a beat, and welds anything from little stuff to big stuff with ease. About 2-3 years ago it was about $1300 or $1400 from memory.
We purchased it from a BOC outlet I think using my mates capricorn account.
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We purchased it from a BOC outlet I think using my mates capricorn account.
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Posted 11 January 2008 - 12:08 PM
exactly what he said.The plug on the welder is for a 15 amp outlet, wide earth pin. This will not fit into a regular 10 amp outlet. My solution was to buy a 15 amp female plug and fit it to a 10 amp extension lead. The cord on the welder is probably too short anyway. Otherwise you can cut down the earth pin to fit into a 10 amp outlet.
then you'll have no problems at all.
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Posted 11 January 2008 - 12:22 PM
When I was at BOC yesterday they said they only sell BOC machines :( Got a reply from one supplier and was $2310 for a WIA Weldmatic 10 225amp...
Wish I had a trade account somewhere...
Why do they make em with a 15Amp cord if they work fine with 10amp?
Wish I had a trade account somewhere...
Why do they make em with a 15Amp cord if they work fine with 10amp?
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Posted 11 January 2008 - 01:15 PM
Viper, i looked on the net & rang a couple of places in w.a for you..and there is a place in w.a called Toolstore in rockingham & in Balcatta i dont know how far from you they are but the have UNIMIG Procraft 195 mig's for $1210..
Unimig are a chinese made machine but are of good quality with good parts availablity also.
Toolstores number is 95271199 if your interested.
Also another place called Perth welder repairs..they sell used equipment too,might be able to pick up a good second hand machine.1300735394 in canningvale.
Unimig are a chinese made machine but are of good quality with good parts availablity also.
Toolstores number is 95271199 if your interested.
Also another place called Perth welder repairs..they sell used equipment too,might be able to pick up a good second hand machine.1300735394 in canningvale.
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Posted 11 January 2008 - 01:44 PM
Wow your either very bored or just a good person who likes to help people thanks
Both are a little bit of a drive but dont mind if its a good machine...
Anyone else recommend the UNIMIG Procraft 195?
Ill give south perth welder repairs a call and see what they have on offer
thanks Both are a little bit of a drive but dont mind if its a good machine...
Anyone else recommend the UNIMIG Procraft 195?
Ill give south perth welder repairs a call and see what they have on offer
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Posted 11 January 2008 - 09:33 PM
Personally if youre doing body repairs ie welding panels use a Henrob oxy/accetalyne, it leaves a small weld beed which means less grinding and better controled penatration as i just discovered when welding my mild steel exhaust, but then you have to learn to oxy/acc weld.
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Posted 12 January 2008 - 12:22 AM
I did abit of a search after asking you what a Henrob was But I didnt really find much info on it...
Is it just an attachment to and oxy/acel set? Ive done a small ammount of oxy welding in the past and wasnt tooo bad at it.
Is it just an attachment to and oxy/acel set? Ive done a small ammount of oxy welding in the past and wasnt tooo bad at it.
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I did abit of a search after asking you what a Henrob was But I didnt really find much info on it...
Is it just an attachment to and oxy/acel set? Ive done a small ammount of oxy welding in the past and wasnt tooo bad at it.
Is it just an attachment to and oxy/acel set? Ive done a small ammount of oxy welding in the past and wasnt tooo bad at it.
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Posted 12 January 2008 - 12:36 AM
ahhh found why I couldnt find any info... its called a DHC 2000 now, no longer Henrob...
found the info on this site. http://www.amweld.com.au/
looks interesting... Where did you buy your setup from? and how much is a oxy set roughly? Including regulators, guages and hoses?
found the info on this site. http://www.amweld.com.au/
looks interesting... Where did you buy your setup from? and how much is a oxy set roughly? Including regulators, guages and hoses?
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Posted 12 January 2008 - 10:03 AM
Quality & parts supply wise its very hard to go past these 3 in order:Wow your either very bored or just a good person who likes to help people
Both are a little bit of a drive but dont mind if its a good machine...
Anyone else recommend the UNIMIG Procraft 195?
Ill give south perth welder repairs a call and see what they have on offer
Lincoln
WIA
CIG Transmig
It comes down to budget, but what you would pay for a unimig, add a bit extra & get one of the above
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Posted 12 January 2008 - 01:39 PM
I agree that Lincoln/wia/cig are good welders..i have a cig transmig myself and it has never missed a beat & i paid $1050 for a 190amp.
Like i said before just shop around for the best deal..if you can get a miller/lincoln/wia i your budget then go for it.
Like i said before just shop around for the best deal..if you can get a miller/lincoln/wia i your budget then go for it.
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Posted 12 January 2008 - 03:22 PM
NO!The plug on the welder is for a 15 amp outlet, wide earth pin. This will not fit into a regular 10 amp outlet. My solution was to buy a 15 amp female plug and fit it to a 10 amp extension lead. The cord on the welder is probably too short anyway. Otherwise you can cut down the earth pin to fit into a 10 amp outlet.
There is a reason that the earth pin is bigger, just leave it be.
Just get a sparky in to put in a 15 Amp outlet, that is not protected by a RCD "safety switch"
if you are forking out for a decent welder, surely doing it the right way is not out of reach.
cheers
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Posted 13 December 2009 - 10:57 AM
Yup, I have a WIA Weldmatic 10mm. Little bro reckons that they are essentially rebadged Lincolns. They said this was the largest that would run on single phase 15 amps, so I'd be checking if that machine isn't a 3 phase machine. Mind you that was 2-3 years ago now. I have 6mm cable running from the switchboard all the way down to my shed, as I new I wanted to run a fairly large welder when we did the extension.
From the manwell....
Connection to Electrical Mains Power
Supply
The Weldmatic 8mm and 10mm are factory
fitted with a mains power supply cable with
moulded 3 pin, 15 Amp, Single Phase plug.
Note: If the Weldmatic 10mm is to be used
at maximum output current and duty cycle,
an appropriate 20 Amp plug should be fitted
by a qualified electrician.
The minimum capacity of the mains wiring
and power outlet supplying a welder
is selected according to the effective
primary current of the equipment. Refer to
‘Specifications’ (Section 3) for the relevant
‘Effective Primary Current’ rating and
recommended mains circuit breaker.
Note : Due to normal variations of sensitivity,
the tripping time of some circuit breakers
may limit the duty cycle available from the
Weldmatic 8mm and 10mm. A higher rated
circuit breaker can be selected, but the mains
wiring capacity must be increased to suit.
Hope this helps.
From the manwell....
Connection to Electrical Mains Power
Supply
The Weldmatic 8mm and 10mm are factory
fitted with a mains power supply cable with
moulded 3 pin, 15 Amp, Single Phase plug.
Note: If the Weldmatic 10mm is to be used
at maximum output current and duty cycle,
an appropriate 20 Amp plug should be fitted
by a qualified electrician.
The minimum capacity of the mains wiring
and power outlet supplying a welder
is selected according to the effective
primary current of the equipment. Refer to
‘Specifications’ (Section 3) for the relevant
‘Effective Primary Current’ rating and
recommended mains circuit breaker.
Note : Due to normal variations of sensitivity,
the tripping time of some circuit breakers
may limit the duty cycle available from the
Weldmatic 8mm and 10mm. A higher rated
circuit breaker can be selected, but the mains
wiring capacity must be increased to suit.
Hope this helps.
Edited by Yella SLuR, 13 December 2009 - 11:06 AM.
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