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#1 _bek_lx330_

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Posted 07 April 2008 - 11:49 AM

Hello all,
yes I am asking for your help again! ;) I am turning my 77 SL LX 4 door Torana into a mock up SLR 5000 (as I sadly can't affors a real one) and have become a bit confused to which type of cluster I should be looking for? Some clusters have yellow needles, some red and some white. What is the difference? And in what year did the dashes change from the white to yellow style? Finding lots of very "different" types at swaps, on ebay etc.
If someone could please tell me what type I should be getting to try and make my mock up look right for it's year/ model? Thanking you in advance... Bek. :)

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Posted 07 April 2008 - 12:06 PM

You'd be after the yellow needled gauges for an LX.

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Posted 07 April 2008 - 12:07 PM

To the best of my knowledge you're after the yellow needle set! I'm sure Dr Terry would be the right person to set you straight on it!

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Posted 07 April 2008 - 12:10 PM

Yeah, you would be after a Yellow Needle one...

But in my opinion... The White needle ones look heaps better! Mainly because they dont fade! I have a white one in my hatch and it looks great!

Also, White ones are cheaper than yellow ones

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Posted 07 April 2008 - 12:10 PM

For a late LX, you should have the yellow needle SLR gauges with the park brake light in the speedo.

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Posted 07 April 2008 - 12:44 PM

Ok so yellow we think, well that's all good but do we know why some have red needles and some have yellow or orange. Are they for different models or has someone painted them? Cause sometimes the needles can vary big time?
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Posted 07 April 2008 - 01:01 PM

The second set has been made up from a speedo from a SL. All of the needles have been painted in an attempt to make the whole cluster match.

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Posted 07 April 2008 - 01:24 PM

You can tell it is an SL speedo because it only goes up to 160 km/h. The SS/SLR speedo is 200 km/h

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Posted 07 April 2008 - 01:40 PM

This one has a red needle on the centre gauge, is that factory do you think or it's been mucked with?It's on ebay at the moment...

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Posted 07 April 2008 - 01:56 PM

The red needle in the middle has definitely been 'mucked with'

The needles on a particular cluster should all be the same colour, and have the same level of fading- given that they have been exposed to the same level of light over the years.

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Posted 07 April 2008 - 02:02 PM

Thankyou for the help again guy's, regards Beka :spoton:

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Posted 07 April 2008 - 02:05 PM

Check out this one, this looks the goods to me.

http://cgi.ebay.com....1QQcmdZViewItem

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Posted 07 April 2008 - 02:14 PM

^ looks very reasonable for the money.

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Posted 07 April 2008 - 02:17 PM

Thankyou FATLH5000, I am watching that one. There is one in Bendigo (where I am from) at the moment too. What is reasonable $$$ to pay for a yellow needle one do you think??

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Posted 07 April 2008 - 03:45 PM

I couple of months ago, they would sell for $150-200, But now, the yellow needle ones go for upwards of $700!!!

I reckon you should still be able to get one around the $200 mark at a swap meet...

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Posted 07 April 2008 - 04:41 PM

Keep in mind that most of them for sale need repairs, so budget that in.

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Posted 07 April 2008 - 06:29 PM

Hi Guys.

Firstly, the 'yellow' gauges are the correct ones for the LX series. Secondly, if it's a 1977 model then it will need to have the later units, where the park brake & brake fail are 2 separate lights. The 1976 ones have 1 warning light for both brake functions.

Over the years these gauges fade a lot, so the original gauge colours are difficult to distinguish.

AFAIK, the needles are not yellow for LX, they are orange. However, the lettering and graphics on the dial face are yellow. I own a low mileage 9/76 SL hatchback & that's how those gauges are coloured, likewise some individual gauges that I have stored in boxes. I think the 'yellow' needle thing comes from the UC & HZ series where the needles are yellow, but the dial face lettering is white.

I think many of those red needles on the previous page have been fiddled with.

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Posted 07 April 2008 - 07:44 PM

There are basically 5 sets of SLR gauges, I decided to go and take some pics of the 3 different sets I have. All are in very good condition so you can get an idea of what they should look like.

first up, LH. There are 3 different types of LH I have seen, the first has miles and KM, the second is as pictured, and the 3rd has 7 digits in the odometer while this one has 6
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The next is the early LX SLR type
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Late LX type. These appeared in around mid 77 and have the park brake in the bottom of the speedo as you can see.
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Posted 07 April 2008 - 09:01 PM

Thanks so much for all that info people... I don't know where I would be without all your help. I guess I'll owe some people some beer's if I get the pleasure to meet any of you one day! Lol Cheers, Bek :clap:

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Posted 07 April 2008 - 09:02 PM

i have a spare dash cluster, im not sure if it has the park brake or not.

what month is your car? im pretty sure my spare is dated 5/77 and doesnt have the park brake iirc.

only problem is, it has clocked nearly 400,oook.

i would be wary of ultra low k's on any speedo off ebay, i reckon i was about 7 or 8 when i figured out how to wind a speedo back,
they usualy wind back in the same digit, ie: 666,666, then 555,555, then 444,444 and then u can tune the other numbers.

prices for non-park brake dash is about 2 - 300, but i have seen park brake dashes go for 5 to 600 a few times.

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Posted 07 April 2008 - 09:12 PM

Yes, watch the low KM ones, especially when the the needles look faded. I've even seen guys claiming to have new old stock ones on ebay with 0km's. thats just wrong, none EVER had 0km on them from new.
The last few expensive ones I saw on ebay went for just over $900!! PS, I don't drink beer, but a Jim Beam would go down nicely lol, just kidding

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Posted 07 April 2008 - 10:06 PM

Can we stick this and the console thread?

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Posted 07 April 2008 - 10:19 PM

Not a bad idea, maybe just put a thread together with all the information and pics

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Posted 08 April 2008 - 06:14 AM

Just out of curiosity because of the SL/E cluster I was looking for had this, does the 6 cylinder tacho have a different redline? For the VH the 6 is at 6K and the V8 is 5.5k? Also the tacho would need to suit the signal from a 6 or an 8.

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Posted 08 April 2008 - 07:32 AM

The redline in an LH or LX cluster is the same for 6 and 8. There is a selection on the back for 4, 6 and 8. A purely 4 cylinder one was made too with no selection, these are the ones that come up on ebay as NOS




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